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The E9X is the 4th evolution of the BMW 3 series including a highly tuned twin turbo 335i variant pushing out 300hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque. BMW continues to show that it sets the bar for true driving performance! -- View the E9X Wiki

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Old 11-29-2012, 06:16 PM
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335is or an M3

Hi Guys and Girls. This is my first post on this site. I'm an active member of the Porsche forum called Rennlist. I'm in the process of selling my 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo that I have spent a ton building a new motor for. Dyno'd at over 400 rwhp. Anyhow, I love the car but the platform is almost 30 years old and I want something newer.

I had an 07 335i sedan when they first came out and aside from the HPFP problem, it was a great car.

I'm looking at either an 11 or 12 335is or an 08 or 09 M3. They are similar in price. I'd get the DCT because it'll be my daily driver and a traditional manual in metro Atlanta traffic isn't a good choice.

I know a ton about both cars, driven both cars, love both cars. I know there is more potential in the 335is for modifications but the M3 is just a sick car.

I'd like peoples thoughts on what they would do.

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I think you can't go wrong with either. Have you driven a M3 DCT much?
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I don't see how there's still a decision to be made if you've driven an M3 already.
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I don't see how there's still a decision to be made if you've driven an M3 already.
I wasn't gonna say that.
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I don't see how there's still a decision to be made if you've driven an M3 already.
Have you driven a DCT 335iS ?
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:53 PM
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I'm on the North side of the burbs. Roswell/Woodstock area. The M3 is sweet no doubt, but I like the modification potential of the 335is. I went and looked at a grey on blk 2012 335is today. It has 4,000 miles on it. I don't want to pay $50k plus tax for a used 335is. I don't mind a 20,000 mile car.

Do the 335is suffer from the HPFP issue that that regular 335's had?
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I'm on the North side of the burbs. Roswell/Woodstock area. The M3 is sweet no doubt, but I like the modification potential of the 335is. I went and looked at a grey on blk 2012 335is today. It has 4,000 miles on it. I don't want to pay $50k plus tax for a used 335is. I don't mind a 20,000 mile car.

Do the 335is suffer from the HPFP issue that that regular 335's had?
No more, no less, afaik.

I'm in Vinings. A Town M Club will be at Caffiene and Octane this Sunday in N Fulton. Lots of M guys to talk to, and a great show. But sure, 335iS is great. But not an M3.
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I'm on the North side of the burbs. Roswell/Woodstock area. The M3 is sweet no doubt, but I like the modification potential of the 335is. I went and looked at a grey on blk 2012 335is today. It has 4,000 miles on it. I don't want to pay $50k plus tax for a used 335is. I don't mind a 20,000 mile car.

Do the 335is suffer from the HPFP issue that that regular 335's had?
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I'd like peoples thoughts on what they would do.

Hold out for a '88 or '89 911. THAT is class!
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I'm done with old platforms and old technology. Would love an 89 930 turbo but its just a nightmare.
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Exactly! Get the 335is
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:44 PM
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Personally I'd go with the M. the 335 is a beautiful car as well...but it doesn't have an M3 badge to make you tingle every time you drive it!
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Personally I'd go with the M. the 335 is a beautiful car as well...but it doesn't have an M3 badge to make you tingle every time you drive it!
What would suck is an M3 getting raped by a 335. By the way we are not talking about a 335i AT or MT we are talking about a DCT N54 335iS, with the same DCT as the M3 and chasis.
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What would suck is an M3 getting raped by a 335. By the way we are not talking about a 335i AT or MT we are talking about a DCT N54 335iS, with the same DCT as the M3 and chasis.

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Deffo the m3 is a complete car just get the eisenmann and hit the loud pedal

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I'm looking at either an 11 or 12 335is or an 08 or 09 M3. They are similar in price. I'd get the DCT because it'll be my daily driver and a traditional manual in metro Atlanta traffic isn't a good choice.

You'll want some parts to make the 335is a contender. Just a few....$7500 min part cost....JB4 + Bavarian Technic gives you extensive control of car's parameters, much much more than most are aware exist. Meth for that special feeling of confidence.

In those respects N54 335i or 335is is a very engaging machine to personalize.

Major mod for the M is a $10k supercharger, but it elevates you to very rarified air, a place where 335i[s] will never be.

What're your thoughts now?

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You'll want some parts to make the 335is a contender. Just a few....$7500 min part cost....JB4 + Bavarian Technic gives you extensive control of car's parameters, much much more than most are aware exist. Meth for that special feeling of confidence.

In those respects N54 335i or 335is is a very engaging machine to personalize.

Major mod for the M is a $10k supercharger, but it elevates you to very rarified air, a place where 335i[s] will never be.

What're your thoughts now?

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Or the Gpower one for +$47000 + you gotta ship the car back to Germany
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...20-horsepower/

Or the Gpower one for +$47000 + you gotta ship the car back to Germany
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And a built engine, ie rods and pistons, and some valvetrain and head work, some fuel mods and bigger turbos and i guarantee more than 720hp, i had a turbo charged inline six, from a jeep cherokee in a f body that made 690 to the wheels, so i know whar rarified air smells like.....
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:42 AM
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$7500 in mod costs for a 335is? Is that correct? a JB4 is $500.

I'm aware of the supercharger for the M3 but don't need that much power for a daily driver.

I'm leaning towards an M3, I just need to drive a few of them again and really decide.
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$7500 in mod costs for a 335is? Is that correct? a JB4 is $500.

I'm aware of the supercharger for the M3 but don't need that much power for a daily driver.

I'm leaning towards an M3, I just need to drive a few of them again and really decide.

Stock, M3 blows away 335is.

335 & 328 suspension is seriously lacking - there's where most of your mods will go. You'll feel a pronounced diff, M3 vs 335is, simply moving through dealer's parking lot.

335 & 328 were purposely designed to be inferior to M3, yet as it is the same car at its core, can be modded to M3 performance and then some w/part replacement. You want that.

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I would go with the M3. I would also take the E30, E36, E46 and E90 M3 over the 335, but that is just me.

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I'd go m3 ! Stock speed and suspension is always great, and you can mod an m3 as well, you just have to remove existing upgraded parts already, which you could sell anyway !
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If you want a "stop light derby winner", go with the 335is. If you want a car to DD and track, go with the M3, the engine and suspension is much better designed to handle that work and will do it all day. The N54 turbo needs to be cooled properly to stay effective. although they have done this in the 1M. The M3 has more space in the wheel arches for bigger tires too. From a pure visual perspective, the flared front and rear fenders and the "power dome" give it much stronger "sense of purpose" than the stock 335 body, even with the M-sport add-on bumper

Based on my experience of owning a 2008 M3 for 3.5 years and 73K miles, 20K is "just run in" - assuming the oil has been changed properly.

M3 mods have a bigger surcharge than 335(is) mods. Add the 1M to your list!
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And the 135is as well.

And as the previous owner of a 944 I would find a way to keep it, unless it's just becoming a serious maintenance or body cosmetic nightmare.

Best light weight handling car I've ever driven, even if woefully underpowered at the stock level (can't remember hp numbers offhand, but nowhere near the 400 you are pulling).
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Get a 335i xdrive. And get a protune.
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