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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 01-08-2013, 06:58 PM
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What I Hate About The Look of the Front of an F30

So we've already had a few threads about the look of the F30 when viewed from squarely front-on. I am one of the folks who don't like the look at all...from any other angle than exactly front-on I like the car a lot.

I try not to look at it, usually parking face in, but tonight I was looking at the front and remembering this thread from a few days ago...and I though...what is it really that I don't like about it? The key items I think are:

+ it looks like a sumo wrestler sat on the front of the car and squashed the face.
+ the line of the hood opening across the front
+ the lights are too extremely near the edge of the car.
+ somewhat due to the sumo-squash, the lights could be a little bigger.
+ to a lesser degree, that the lights touch the kidney grills.

I was also remembering the BMW CS concept from a few years ago which also had a very squashed (but badass!) looking front to it and the kidneys.

So to prove my theories, I did a quick photoshop attempt at my version. I have an e90 in the garage next to my f30 so I could compare what I liked and stole a few design elements from the older car. I did not change anything but the above listed items, though I know modifying the skirt for example would have been an easy cheat. Also I tried to not change the hood line as little as possible, since I know there are European pedestrian laws that require the steep swoop down to the front of the hood.

Here is what I came up with. I'm no photo shop wizard obviously, but I am wondering if you guys like the new version better or worse. As always, it's a very subjective thing and I am sure a bunch of folks will like the real version better and that's fine by me!

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Old 01-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:29 PM
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Fun exercise.

The specificity of of your observations is interesting as most merely express whether they do or do not like the look.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:33 PM
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First, your photoshop skills are very impressive. Well done

I'm with you on the hood line, but have no problem with the height of the lights. However, the light going all the way over to the kidney's has got to go. I mean c'mon BMW at least give it some shape and not just a big blob of nothing.

Overall the front to rear hood lines are a work of art and one of my favorite things about the car aesthetically. A lot of other auto manufacturers have tried to pull off the double "wave" and failed miserably. BMW's implementation is timeless IMBO.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:46 PM
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first, your photoshop skills are very impressive. Well done

I'm with you on the hood line, but have no problem with the height of the lights. However, the light going all the way over to the kidney's has got to go. I mean c'mon bmw at least give it some shape and not just a big blob of nothing.
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I would prefer it if the lights were not touching the grills too.

Not a deal breaker for me, but just saying...
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I would prefer it if the lights were not touching the grills too.

Not a deal breaker for me, but just saying...


It takes a week, but eventually you 'get' it and it makes sense.

What's not discussed yet should be is the protruding grill. Instead of a flat surface, it protrudes like a chrome-wrapped floating oval. The headlamp array might be a bit awkward, but the grill treatment is terrific.

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I guess my answer to you would be:

"If we wanted an X1, we'd have bought an X1."

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So like a F10 basically, lol? I think the F30 is supposed to draw a wider appeal (to males and females) so the car is toned down a bit (and more feminine). Your photo-shop, while awesome, is way to masculine for a 3 series.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:50 PM
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So like a F10 basically, lol? I think the F30 is supposed to draw a wider appeal (to males and females) so the car is toned down a bit (and more feminine). Your photo-shop, while awesome, is way to masculine for a 3 series.
That's a pretty interesting observation. I think you are right that what I did makes it look more aggressive, though I think that might be easier achieved with a fiercer front spoiler. Maybe I should just get the M-Sport (which is more aggressive) and be happy!
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That's a pretty interesting observation. I think you are right that what I did makes it look more aggressive, though I think that might be easier achieved with a fiercer front spoiler. Maybe I should just get the M-Sport (which is more aggressive) and be happy!


I find that the F30 M-Sport looks too much like the E90 LCI. The M-Sport's most prominent front feature is that "swoop jaw" that puts a flat surface under each headlamp and then that flat surface drops down below the bumper to the air scoop and back up.

The E90 front looks like a Pachinko machine. The F30 front looks like Angry Birds. I like the de-Bangled F30 better, like it's low-slung nose, like the fact that it looks clean and menacing as opposed to confusing and friendly.

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I guess I am the only one who thinks the car is actually perfect as it is. Quite honestly when I first saw it I thought they screwed up the design with the lights touching the grille but it grew on me and I accepted it completely when I first saw the car in real life. The design stands out, it's bold and yet very distinctive and classically addictive for bmw. I wouldn't change a thing.
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I guess I am the only one who thinks the car is actually perfect as it is. Quite honestly when I first saw it I thought they screwed up the design with the lights touching the grille but it grew on me and I accepted it completely when I first saw the car in real life. The design stands out, it's bold and yet very distinctive and classically addictive for bmw. I wouldn't change a thing.


Agree completely.

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I guess I am the only one who thinks the car is actually perfect as it is. Quite honestly when I first saw it I thought they screwed up the design with the lights touching the grille but it grew on me and I accepted it completely when I first saw the car in real life. The design stands out, it's bold and yet very distinctive and classically addictive for bmw. I wouldn't change a thing.
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This is my first bimmer. Since I could have afforded one brand new, there's no way I was going to buy a used E90 although I loved them. And when the successor is released I'm sure I'll lust over that too and upgrade. I don't see where you people get this "fanboy" nonsense from. They're all bimmers. Although, it appears you wish you had one.
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This is my first bimmer. Since I could have afforded one brand new, there's no way I was going to buy a used E90 although I loved them. And when the successor is released I'm sure I'll lust over that too and upgrade. I don't see where you people get this "fanboy" nonsense from. They're all bimmers. Although, it appears you wish you had one.
I certainly wouldn't call posting in a dedicated f30 forum in a thread specifically about styling that you like the f30 styling being a fanboy. But, alas, being the Internet, people just like to start arguments. Oh well.
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I certainly wouldn't call posting in a dedicated f30 forum in a thread specifically about styling that you like the f30 styling being a fanboy. But, alas, being the Internet, people just like to start arguments. Oh well.
I don't think that is being a fanboy either. This is the F30 forum of a BMW enthusiasts web site and it should be expected that people who own F30s will tend to be enthusiastic about them. Where the fanboyism comes into play is when anyone who dares to express a negative opinion of the F30 or who dares to praise one of its competitors is beaten down, ridiculed, told they are driving old, out of style cars and asked to leave the forum. This type of behavior is childish and uncalled for.

The F30 is a new relatively new model and many here who presently drive E90s, and particularly those who are leasing, will very likely be seriously considering replacing them with F30 when their leases run out. There is nothing wrong with asking questions and/or expressing legitimate concerns about the new model or stating that there may be some things about the old model that you may prefer.

Granted there are some posters who are repeating the same criticisms over and over in many threads and that also adds nothing of substance but sometimes it is best to exhibit restraint and maturity and take the high road,
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That's what guys say when they marry ugly chicks. Some say love is blind, but its just rationalization.
Hehehe...that's funny! And actually may be quite true. Cars are often compared to women for a reason... or the other way around. The only thing I'm definitely going to be married to is this new car so I better rationalize it!!
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I prefer as is. Gives the car a bit more of a wide and low feel.
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I like your hood much better. I mentioned the other day I think they did the hood "cut line" the way they did in an attempt to minimize sheet metal damage should pedestrian damage occur. I like the size of the lights and the current grill set up just fine.
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The front end design has grown on me since I first saw it. I do like your Photoshop better, but it's a very slight improvement. My main gripe with the new car is the size. Just too big.
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Next time anyone looks at the image in BJ's signature, the straight hood line, the bloated hood looking from the side, and the sunken nose/mouth at the front bumper, are all there for a good reason, to be more pedestrian friendly. They were not there for aesthetic reason. You can't have the cake and eat it too, the look has to suffer a little for the good of humanity, it is the least a Bimmer driver can do. The fact BJ finds them amazingly good looking is irrelevant, because they were not there to look good, rather to protect the pedestrian.

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Send your design to BMW and they should hire you on the spot. Great job and you fixed my main gripe with the F30 design. Now, please start working on changing the GPS screen that is just stuck there like it was an afterthought.
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