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Old 02-03-2013, 08:12 PM
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I was hoping to get some advice.

I own a 2008 TL Type-S. I like the interior, bells and whistles, but it is huge, has a horrendous turning radius, and I just can't stand FWD. I do like the power, although it often seems wasted by steer torque.

I am looking to replace it with either a 2008-2009 335i, or a 2011 328ix.

I never go to the track. I am too old to race at lights. I DO love power, especially in a pinch.
I love performance handling, and feeling like part of the car. My pleasure driving is mostly on swerving, hilly roads.

Any suggestions? They cost about the same.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:01 PM
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before i got my 335, i test drove the 328 and 335 back to back. 335 won hands down in driving satisfaction. Between xi and non xi - I liked the non xi, between n54 and n55 I liked the N54 , between AT and 6MT , i liked the 6MT. Basically test drive them all and you will find your car. Hopefully the color combo you like is not a rare combo cause thats where I was stuck for a long time. I had a very hard time finding space grey on coral red with 6MT. I got the non xi even though i live in Chicago. good luck
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before i got my 335, i test drove the 328 and 335 back to back. 335 won hands down in driving satisfaction. Between xi and non xi - I liked the non xi, between n54 and n55 I liked the N54 , between AT and 6MT , i liked the 6MT. Basically test drive them all and you will find your car. Hopefully the color combo you like is not a rare combo cause thats where I was stuck for a long time. I had a very hard time finding space grey on coral red with 6MT. I got the non xi even though i live in Chicago. good luck


+1 for 335 non xi in Chicago.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:07 AM
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Considering my OP, why do you suggest the 335 over the newer 328? Thanks for your responses!
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Considering my OP, why do you suggest the 335 over the newer 328? Thanks for your responses!
Because an accord will give the 328 a run for its money... 328i is going backwards from a tl type s (imop )

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Because an accord will give the 328 a run for its money... 328i is going backwards from a tl type s (imop )
Backwards?? Front wheel sucks and like OP stated..Ever turn one of those rigs?? Acura=Zero Cache. By the way I owned one of those discontinued CL's as my 1st car, it sucked.
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Backwards?? Front wheel sucks and like OP stated..Ever turn one of those rigs?? Acura=Zero Cache. By the way I owned one of those discontinued CL's as my 1st car, it sucked.
CL is about as close to a TL-Type S as a 328 is to a 335i... I'd pick his TL over a 328 all day everyday.
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Because an accord will give the 328 a run for its money... 328i is going backwards from a tl type s (imop )
The first part is simply not true. The Accord is actually more powerful than the 328i, but it doesn't get the power to the ground nearly as efficiently and the AT is optimized for economy. So, it is quite a bit less friskly around town.

The 328i is going backwards from a TL in acceleration, but power is not everything. It won't handle, brake, or even ride as well as the 328i.
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The first part is simply not true. The Accord is actually more powerful than the 328i, but it doesn't get the power to the ground nearly as efficiently and the AT is optimized for economy. So, it is quite a bit less friskly around town.
Dude I've had them as loaners and watched them lose or almost lose to cars half their price.

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No offense meant (and you are certainly entitled to your opinion) but I think you're being a tad silly. I definitely understand and respect why a buyer would opt for the power and fun of a 335i. But, you are making out here like the 328i is an entirely different vehicle, and that is simply not true.
I've yet to see a 328i give me any kind of problem. The one guy who tried stock v. stock still got handled and I took a turn with the 200+ awd pounds @ 105, not sure what he took it at cause he was so far back.

Its not like its 335i pride, we've had multiple cars that have doubled my 335i's price. It's just the 328i is for a different kind of buyer and driver and if the OP falls into that category great! But to try and overhype its abilities is about as silly as me saying I'd prefer to walk over drive a bmw.

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Old 02-04-2013, 09:12 AM
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So you're candidates are a 2011 328xi and an older 335i.
Not considering reliability and/or warranty, but considering your comments about wanting power....the 328i (not xi) is plenty powerful, but the xi definitely blunts the performance of that engine. In particular when mated with an automatic transmission.
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Great reply, thank you sir.

RWD for me, then.

I am definately open to other models if they fit the bill better, especially considering my issues with the Type-S (although a nice car).
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This past fall, I picked up a 2009 335i (E90 sedan), CPO, with sport, navi and 6 MT. VERY hard to find that combo. You'll find a lot more if you are shopping the coupe or are willing to forgo the 6 MT. At the time I bought mine, it was the only CPO with those specs in the entire country. By dumb luck, it was at my local dealer and had a decent color combo (black with saddle interior).

Whichever car you pick, you're going not going to miss the TL.
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If it's between 2008-2009 335 or 2011 328 then go for the 2011. What about 2010 335? 2008-2009 335 should not be the same price as a 2011 328...that's a huge difference in years.
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Money no object, the 335 is the obvious winner. The xi is just heavier and less responsive, not to mention thirstier.
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OP quick question, did you ever run the TL at the track?


EDIT: OPPS sorry I missed your statement about the track. Not sure how old you are but I can still cut a good light.
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I think you would be happy with either choice. Both are upgrades IMO. The 6 speed manual is highly recommended for maximum enjoyment
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Hi all,
I was hoping to get some advice.

I own a 2008 TL Type-S. I like the interior, bells and whistles, but it is huge, has a horrendous turning radius, and I just can't stand FWD. I do like the power, although it often seems wasted by steer torque.

I am looking to replace it with either a 2008-2009 335i, or a 2011 328ix.

I never go to the track. I am too old to race at lights. I DO love power, especially in a pinch.
I love performance handling, and feeling like part of the car. My pleasure driving is mostly on swerving, hilly roads.

Any suggestions? They cost about the same.
Since you sound like you're more my age than these younger troops, I'd recommend a 2011 335d if you can find one. But do your due diligence. It sounds like a perfect match for what you want to do with it. I bought the plain vanilla model (non-sports suspension), which is perfectly fine as is, but I would suggest at a minimum put some Bilstein B6 dampers on it because the OEM wallows a tad bit. Having said all that, I am going seriously up-market in a couple of weeks and totally redoing the suspension. I made the mistake of driving someone else's D that had the sport package. And then I lost control of my good sense and decided to really mod it. The 335d is a serious torque monster and gets most of us 30mpg average and high 30s on the highway.
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Pinkeye,
I had a 2005 Acura TL and loved it. Having said that, if you like driving for the sheer pleasure of it, you'll fall IN LOVE with either the of your choices. I just bought a 2009 335i, and not only does it have great passing power, it handles like nothing I've ever owned, and I've had over 20 cars. I too was deciding between a 335i and 328i, xDrive or not. In the end, they all made me smile in the turns. When I bought the TL, I valued the interior design and electronics more than handling since I was constantly on the freeway in traffic. Now that I drive curvy roads more often,and value driving itself more, there is no sedan that is more enjoyable. This is all opinion of course, but you sound like I did... Have fun!
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Speaking from experience, you will miss the power of the Type S if you decide to get a 328Xi. You will miss the reliability of the Type S if you go for the 335. However you will not miss FWD whether you decide to get the 328 or 335. If you want my advice go for the 328i, unless you really need the AWD.
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I think you should at the very least add the diesel to your test drive list (preferably with ZSP). There's no better combo of sportiness, power and efficiency in BMWs lineup...or anyone else's that I can think of short of Tesla.
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