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Old 01-17-2005, 05:36 PM
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E90 First Drive Review (Jan. 18)

I haven't even read it yet. Here you go!

A review from http://cars.msn.co.uk/Carreviewshome/FDBMW3seriesJan05/
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:11 PM
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I wish they would say how the suspension compares with a SP or ZHP e46. At least they say it's stiffer, which can only be a good thing.

They could have compared the steering feel (road surface visualization) as well.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:39 PM
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No more coolant gauge?
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No more coolant gauge?
None of the new ones (E65/66/60/61/63) have one.
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'Let's leave the useless MPG gauge there but delete somewhat more useful coolant gauge...'

Why can't BMW just include a oil temp gauge????????
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:58 PM
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'Let's leave the useless MPG gauge there but delete somewhat more useful coolant gauge...'

Why can't BMW just include a oil temp gauge????????

Amen, BlackChrome. What a useless and distracting thing the MPG gauge is...of course the traditionists gave me crap about that notion...i guess they still want to roll down their windows with the hand cranks.
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:33 AM
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'Let's leave the useless MPG gauge there but delete somewhat more useful coolant gauge...'

Why can't BMW just include a oil temp gauge????????
They do, on the M cars.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:46 PM
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None of the new ones (E65/66/60/61/63) have one.
Form over function. That might be okay in designing living room furniture, but this is going to be marketed as a driver's car.

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Old 01-17-2005, 07:48 PM
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Form over function. That might be okay in designing living room furniture, but this is going to be marketed as a driver's car.

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Well, considering the current gauge is HEAVILY buffered, this isn't much of a change.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:32 PM
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No more coolant gauge?
The newer BMWs do have an "advance warning stripe" in the tachometer, which serves the function of the coolant gauge (kinda).

On start-up, the stripe extends all the way to 4500 rpm, basically warning not to rev beyond that (although it will do it). As the engine warms, that stripe recedes until it stops at redline.
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The newer BMWs do have an "advance warning stripe" in the tachometer, which serves the function of the coolant gauge (kinda).

On start-up, the stripe extends all the way to 4500 rpm, basically warning not to rev beyond that (although it will do it). As the engine warms, that stripe recedes until it stops at redline.

Also if you do get I Drive you can get all that information out of it such as coolant temp and oil level.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:34 PM
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No more coolant gauge?
Looks like the RPM redline is variable. That a coolant gauge for you right there!
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:42 PM
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Hmmmm...

So for those of us about to buy a E46, does that mean that the current 05's will go way down in price soon?
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:56 PM
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Pricing?

Does anybody know how the prices mentioned in the review equate to U.S. dollars?
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Old 01-17-2005, 08:00 PM
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Does anybody know how the prices mentioned in the review equate to U.S. dollars?
They don't. UK cars are packaged differently, and pricing is nothing like what we get in the US.
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I haven't even read it yet. Here you go!

A review from http://cars.msn.co.uk/Carreviewshome/FDBMW3seriesJan05/

Wow, looks more like a buick than previous pics. yuck. bmw better bring the 1 here right quick.
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:51 AM
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Wow, looks more like a buick than previous pics. yuck. bmw better bring the 1 here right quick.
Actually, I thought it looks more like some of the old Pontiac used to look like. At least from the front.
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I still truly dislike the tail lights. The front would look SO much better to me if they just integrated the grill into the hood like in the E46. Even if the ran the hood over the grill like they did in the E36 it would look better than what they have now.

The beige interior is NASTY. It looks a bit better in black, but still no where near what they were in the E36/46. That's a shame.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:16 PM
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I still truly dislike the tail lights. The front would look SO much better to me if they just integrated the grill into the hood like in the E46. Even if the ran the hood over the grill like they did in the E36 it would look better than what they have now.

The beige interior is NASTY. It looks a bit better in black, but still no where near what they were in the E36/46. That's a shame.
I kind of agree with your point about the grill, but if they did that why change anything at all. As for indash CD changers, it is probably becasue they didn't have any room. ALso since the new CD player is MP3 compatible you shouldnt need one...
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I kind of agree with your point about the grill, but if they did that why change anything at all.
The changes are much more than the grill...Its shape has changed, the headlights are very different, the whole shape has changed. I don't think changing where the hoodline cuts through would change much. It would still fit nicely into the design of the car without making it look like the grill was an afterthought.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:39 PM
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That read like a press release. It seemed to lack any objective appraisal of the car. When you have blurbs like "Six speed gearboxes are standard across the range, both manual and automatic, the latter with full manual override if you feel like taking control yourself.", there's no way that wasn't cut-and-pasted from BMW press materials. "Full manual override"?! On an automatic?! Surely they aren't referring to Steptronic.

Another- "Its undoubtedly a classic engine in the making, this 3-litre, and it would take a hard nosed, heavily chipped Impreza driver to be anything less than impressed with the level of performance." Um, okay.

Many other quotes exhibited the same apparently lack of objectivity.

I look forward to reading a real review.

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Old 01-18-2005, 12:45 PM
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That read like a press release.
Exactly... Thank you. It smelled like a real review, but I had to re-read it twice to confirm that indeed no real driving experiences were other than a comparison about active steering: " the 330i seemed more alive than the 320d driven with the regular steering"

A good rehash of the car's features and UK specs.
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