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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 02-27-2005, 07:23 PM
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New 330cic - where's the love?

My first taste of a BMW was my parents 1992 525i. Nice car. So, a few years later I ditched my Mits Eclipse for a 1995 BMW 325is, black 5 speed, sport pkg, with grey interior. It was awesome. I got rid of it only because I was given a company car, a '98 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. Free car, so you keep it for a while, then changed jobs.

In 2002 I leased an Audi A4 Quattro because it was all wheel drive (live on very hilly roads). Everytime someone asked me about it, I said it's okay, but it's not like my old BMW.

Lease was nearing it's end so the shopping began. I was not excited, nothing interested me except fond memories of my BMW which was not practical being rear wheel drive. So, I starting looking for a SUV because of my hilly roads. First stop, the BMW dealership, drove an X5, took an X3 home for the night. But, there it was, a black 330 vert on a sunny Oct day. The salesman said "don't do it", but I did drive the convertible. There is a point when emotion takes over practicality. It did.

The sunny day went away and I was disappointed, why? I just couldn't get comfortable in the seat, or the steering wheel. I thought, 'obviously this was a 6'+ man's car', the seat belt choked me, I couldn't get the steering wheel close enough to me. Why did I love my 325 so much, and this wasn't the same?

I have come to think maybe the reasons are: this one is an auto, the '95 was manual. This one has the premium package, the '95 had sport seats.

For 10 years I remembered the BMW as my dream car, and to have a convertible would be the pinnacle of it all. So where's the love?

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Old 02-27-2005, 07:30 PM
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Random related thoughts:

-BMWs are meant to have manual transmissions
-the E46 3-series has a less "connected to the road" feeling than the old E36 3-series
-the convertible just makes it heavier and softer feeling
-after an Eclipse, your old 325is was a revelation...now, 10 years later, you've driven a bunch of nice cars, and even an Audi A4 isn't that special

The 330CicA is still a nice car. Enjoy it for what it is (or trade it in on a 330Ci with a manual transmission ...or a used M3, that'll get some of the love back).
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:42 PM
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it sounds like he/she's complaining about the uncomfortableness of the seating position and the steering wheel position.
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:46 PM
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:58 PM
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Old 03-19-2005, 06:51 PM
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I have nothin' but love for mine!!!

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Hi JonathanIT:

I just ordered a set of 71's from BMW for my new e60 530i.

QUESTION: How do you like your 71's? Are the easy to clean? Any other BMW would you consider? I cannot find a picture of a e60 with 71's do you know where Pictures with 71's on e60 can be found on the web?


Thanks in advance,

Raymond Presley = GA

PS,
By the way the 71's look totally awesome of your 3 series, In fact I like the looks better than the style 37 M Parallels, the small lips makes the rim look like a 19inch BMW rim! I hope they look that good on my Bimmer.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:52 AM
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it sounds like he/she's complaining about the uncomfortableness of the seating position and the steering wheel position.
True, but there's an undercurrent of disappointment in the thread... auto vs. manual trans (which he mentioned) does not affect seat position or steering wheel. I haven't driven a convertible, but I'm guessing the seat belt height adjustment is different or non-existent compared with a sedan (choking seat belt complaint). The steering wheel does telescope so I can't figure that one out, especially if he's not on the very short side (I'm short and have no problem with steering wheel distance).

Also I think PhilH keyed in on one aspect, the fact that the "uniqueness" of his original 325 experience has worn off, and compared with other cars bjsbuds has driven in the interim, the differences aren't so great.

I love my new 330i, but I have also driven a lot of nice cars in my years and I've noticed the number of cars that get me going are much fewer. At this point, there are very few that get my attention, BMW, MB, maybe Audi. I doubt I'll go back to American, and Japanese, well...
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:01 PM
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I have a 2003 325i w/ the sport package-stick, and a BMW z-3. I don't like the Z other than a leisure drive with the wife. My mother- in -law's 2004 325Xi auto and sister -in -law's 325i auto drive the same. Both cars do not compare to my 325 sport sedan. Its like night and day. Give me the sport package, stiff riding beemer anyday. It drives you!
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:40 PM
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Thanks for all your responses. I think it's the two differences that are leaving me disappointed, automatic trans & no sports package. Maybe I'll get it right on the next BMW purchase. Thanks, Kathy
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:12 PM
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It's the sports package you are missing. The non-sport seats are junk. The non-sport suspension too mushy.
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Old 03-20-2005, 09:22 PM
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I get happy every time I have to go somewhere...

when I know I am going to drive it, I just get this happy feeling.... like the feeling of a first sip of beer on a friday happy hour, but constant...

When I bought my car I did not go to the dealer to buy a car. I took our Chrysler mini-van in for service to the dealer next door and I decided to look at the new cars of the dealers in the nearby area and see what's up in the car market... When I walked into the BMW dealer, I saw the usual 3's, 5's, X's, etc.... bah... (I already owned an E36 318 and brothers and friends have E36 M3's, so nothing new....) then on the way out I saw the interior of a tit.silver 330Ci/ZHP with black leather, alcantara wheel/shift boot/hand brake, black aluminum cube dash, and anthracite whatever headliner, wheels, stance, everything was just perfect! and I just said to myself - wow! this is THE car. Went home, did some research, and went back to the delaer to test drive, in a few minutes I was signing.

Sometimes in life you see a car, a house, a girl, a bike, and you just know that it is the one for you. For me this was THE car and what did it was the over all sportyness and refinement and classiness and excitement and precise feelings all mixed in one overall package.
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Old 03-20-2005, 09:25 PM
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BTW, the only other time I have had that feeling of "Ah, this is the one" was when I saw the E46 M3 in black with the cinnamon leather interior..... but at the time, it was out of my reach. I like though the sportier look of alcantara and the smell of the BMW leather. If anyone creates a car scent that smell like BMW leather on a warm day, they will be rich!
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when I know I am going to drive it, I just get this happy feeling.... like the feeling of a first sip of beer on a friday happy hour, but constant...

When I bought my car I did not go to the dealer to buy a car. I took our Chrysler mini-van in for service to the dealer next door and I decided to look at the new cars of the dealers in the nearby area and see what's up in the car market... When I walked into the BMW dealer, I saw the usual 3's, 5's, X's, etc.... bah... (I already owned an E36 318 and brothers and friends have E36 M3's, so nothing new....) then on the way out I saw the interior of a tit.silver 330Ci/ZHP with black leather, alcantara wheel/shift boot/hand brake, black aluminum cube dash, and anthracite whatever headliner, wheels, stance, everything was just perfect! and I just said to myself - wow! this is THE car. Went home, did some research, and went back to the delaer to test drive, in a few minutes I was signing.

Sometimes in life you see a car, a house, a girl, a bike, and you just know that it is the one for you. For me this was THE car and what did it was the over all sportyness and refinement and classiness and excitement and precise feelings all mixed in one overall package.
Gee, this story seems awfully familiar... have I read it somewhere before?

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it is version 2 :-)

it is version 2 :-)
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