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The 2 Series coupe is the replacement for the E82/E88 1 series coupe. Production starts in November 2013 on the 228i (N20) and M235i (N55) coupes. Look for them in dealerships in February 2014. The convertible F23 2 series will follow in the fall of 2014.

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Old 11-03-2017, 09:08 PM
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Is a moonroof delete available under the "Individual" program????
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:11 AM
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That quote was actually in reference to the loss of the adaptive cruise control option from even being a possibility in all M240i's, one of numerous features I mentioned that you may have difficulty getting due to packages, missing options, etc. I sympathize with everyone not being able to get what they want, including a moonroof delete option. Hopefully they didn't take it away from those who don't want one.
Often times, it's because the configuration of the option you chose precludes the other from being added. My guess would be that the reconfiguration of the nose of the car to accomodate the extra radiators in the 240i and the track-package 230i creates an incompatibility with a sensor needed for ACC.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:19 PM
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Is a moonroof delete available under the "Individual" program????
No. AFAIK, the BMW Individual program isn't available with F22/F23 cars at all.
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:29 PM
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She says something to the effect of "Perhaps the dealer made a mistake?" I said no, he didn't, as I watched his screen as he did it, and as a matter of fact I have a printout from your computer system that shows the car with status of 176 - Workshop Exit and the ZDM moonroof delete code is intact.

She looks a the sheet, looks at the moonroof and says, "Let me check with my colleagues." While she's doing this, I check the rest of the car and it matches my build. As I know it takes 10 days for Leipzig to build a car, I'm either going to have to take this one, or the ED will be a bust.

She comes back from the desk and says, "Is this okay?"

I respond not really, but it's not as if I have a choice.
So you were there, at the mothership, and didnt get an explanation?!?

I would have said:

Give me a car to drive, and

Build my car right and ship that home.


or they explain why they cant
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:31 AM
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At the mothership

"Is this okay?" is the only explanation I received at BMW Welt.

Note that you sign for the car before you see it, though I suppose you could get it backed out, if you wanted. In my case, had I refused the car, all the money and plans spent on ED would have been blown, plus I didn't have alternate transportation to return to Frankfurt for the flight home.
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In my case, had I refused the car, all the money and plans spent on ED would have been blown, plus I didn't have alternate transportation to return to Frankfurt for the flight home.
Well, no. There have been a number of ED delivery issues that have come up over the years in the ED forum. BMW always seems to have worked to make it right.

The answer you should have provided was "No, it's not OK. It needs to be corrected or replaced and sent to my dealer. And I need a car to drive while I'm here." They would have provided you with a car and the correct car would have shown up at your dealer in a few months.
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I tried playing with the config when building a car on the website. I could not find a way to moonroof delete. This will probably mean I'll buy my 17 M240i at the end of the lease as I have no desire for a moonroof in any car that is specifically mine. Most unfortunate because I would have gotten another M240i exactly the same way just for the LCI updates.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:17 AM
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I tried playing with the config when building a car on the website. I could not find a way to moonroof delete. This will probably mean I'll buy my 17 M240i at the end of the lease as I have no desire for a moonroof in any car that is specifically mine. Most unfortunate because I would have gotten another M240i exactly the same way just for the LCI updates.


As stated previously, moonroof delete is still an option. Itís just not on the website just like not all wheel options are on the website.


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Old 11-08-2017, 08:26 AM
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Thank you - I seem to have missed that part.

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As stated previously, moonroof delete is still an option. Itís just not on the website just like not all wheel options are on the website.


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Old 11-08-2017, 09:01 AM
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These stories are disappointing. Any idea why BMW NA would do this?

Given that people are still accepting their cars, it looks like BMW NA would be disincentivized from changing their behavior, but the question remains as to why they are doing this.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:39 PM
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"Is this okay?" is the only explanation I received at BMW Welt.

Note that you sign for the car before you see it, though I suppose you could get it backed out, if you wanted. In my case, had I refused the car, all the money and plans spent on ED would have been blown, plus I didn't have alternate transportation to return to Frankfurt for the flight home.
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Well, no. There have been a number of ED delivery issues that have come up over the years in the ED forum. BMW always seems to have worked to make it right.

The answer you should have provided was "No, it's not OK. It needs to be corrected or replaced and sent to my dealer. And I need a car to drive while I'm here." They would have provided you with a car and the correct car would have shown up at your dealer in a few months.
My point exactly.

You already knew there was an issue, Id have refused to sign.

They didnt build as promised. There have been multiple people who have had EDs go as I stated- loaner car and rebuild.


Jet lag, foreign country, dont want to be 'that American'... not sure of your rights...lots of compounding issues.


I am posting this so others will be informed- water under the bridge for you, I realize
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OEM is NOT WHAT YOU BUY AT THE DEALER.


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https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-OEvsOEM

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Old 11-08-2017, 03:41 PM
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These stories are disappointing. Any idea why BMW NA would do this?

Given that people are still accepting their cars, it looks like BMW NA would be disincentivized from changing their behavior, but the question remains as to why they are doing this.
Although people are accepting the cars with moonroofs, in my case and at least one or two others, the dealer provided some type of compensation to get the buyer to agree to accept the car with the moonroof. I would think that the dealers would have sought some kind of reimbursement from BMW NA or would at least have raised enough of a stink to motivate BMW NA not to screw this up.
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Apparently, cars sold in the UK can be ordered w/o the moon-roof. Of course, in their case, they have to pay extra for it...so maybe that has something to do with it.
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Sooooo. has anyone in the USA ordered a 2018 2'er w/ a moon-roof delete and got it w/o a moon-roof?
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