Do the automatic 6ers ever touch red

Yo guys,
i've got a 6spd 6er so i was wondering at what rpm exactly does the auto 6er shift from 1st to 2nd when gunning it? 5800? 6000?

Originally Posted by Steve645

Yo guys,
i've got a 6spd 6er so i was wondering at what rpm exactly does the auto 6er shift from 1st to 2nd when gunning it? 5800? 6000?

Flooring it in Steptronic auto mode, with the sport button pushed down, my shifts are at about 6000. I'd like to tell you that's from 3rd to 4th, but it's 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd.

Manual mode in step will shift just before red line about 6000+. Had a nice run the other day up to 130 so got a 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and 4/5 red line shift. Real neat. Only the second time I tried to see how the manual mode would force shifts. I'll try repeating at least 2 to 3 shifts in this mode to try to better define RPM shift points as the adrenaline was pumping so I did not see tach at each shift.

Originally Posted by cobradav

Manual mode in step will shift just before red line about 6000+. Had a nice run the other day up to 130 so got a 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and 4/5 red line shift. Real neat. Only the second time I tried to see how the manual mode would force shifts. I'll try repeating at least 2 to 3 shifts in this mode to try to better define RPM shift points as the adrenaline was pumping so I did not see tach at each shift.

Cobradav - Will you get the same shift points if the Sport button is not depressed? I haven't tried it that way, but do recall flooring it once to pass someone and not being in Sport. My shift point was only about 4500 RPM. But perhaps I wasn't really flooring it.

In manual mode in sport mode mine shifts at 6500. My 540 auto also shifted at redline. That's one of the reasons why I like the auto better than the M5 stick. Trying to hit the redline exactly under maximal acceleration in the M5 was very difficult because you want to keep your eyes on the road. The automatic will shift exactly at the redline for all shifts while in manual mode. The six speed auto in the 650 is even better than the 5 speed auto I had in my 540.

Are you saying that in manual mode if you don't manually shift, it will automatically shift at redline anyway?

Originally Posted by INTREPID

Are you saying that in manual mode if you don't manually shift, it will automatically shift at redline anyway?

Correct. This is true on any BMW with steptronic or SMG.

Also, the manuals will have the fuel/engine cut out of they redline.

Originally Posted by chuck92103

Correct. This is true on any BMW with steptronic or SMG.

Also, the manuals will have the fuel/engine cut out of they redline.

Is it bad for the motor/causes damage... to take it to the red to the point of engine cut?

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Cobradav - Will you get the same shift points if the Sport button is not depressed? I haven't tried it that way, but do recall flooring it once to pass someone and not being in Sport. My shift point was only about 4500 RPM. But perhaps I wasn't really flooring it.

Once you are in DS and then move either + or - you are in manual mode and the sport mode is no longer recognized. Therefore M shifts are the same with or wothout "Sport" selected. Shifts up (1/2, 2/3, etc) are either at your command or just prior to red line if you do not shift manually, all the way to M6. Down shifts will also occur based on getting too low in RPM for the gear you are in from M6 down to M3. To get to M2 or M1 you must manually shift. The program will not allow you to downshift to the next lower gear if it would cause you to be in too high an RPM range. You can preselect a gear going down. Say you are in M3, at 2500 RPM. You can move the down shift "-" twice holding the shifter in the "-" position and not letting it spring back. This will force downshift all the way to M1 when appropriate RPM is achieved. Once you feel it in M1 you can release the shifter at it will remain in gear.