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Old 03-18-2006, 07:44 AM
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Engine Warranty on 2001 M3

On track with my M3 and engine blew - found out about the recall - bought it in 9-2004 from a dealer as a certified car - dealer states it is the responsibility of the previous owner - who happens to be them but still having to go through attorney to get my new engine - any ideas how to make this happen quick? Thanks
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:17 AM
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Doesn't use on the track void the warranty anyway?
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:21 AM
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I would say it should be part of the "certification" process to ensure all outstanding recalls have been addressed before reselling the car.

In the end, it seems CPO means nothing more than a warranty.
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Old 03-18-2006, 11:04 AM
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bmw and the dealer can pull the dme and detect whether you overreveed and blew your motor. if they deem it "excessive", i.e. winding it out to 8500 rpms all the time constantly bouncing off the rev limiter, they may not replace the motor. i don't think that track duty would necessarily constitute voiding warranty. good luck and let us know how it turns out as i'm sure there are a lot of guys here who track their m3.
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:25 PM
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There are two probable factors that will guide the outcome:

1. Why the recall wasn't performed on the engine yet and who had the responsibility to ensure that it was done.

2. As liuk stated - they will ultimately pull and read the DME on a blown engine warranty claim and see if the engine was being operated outside of nominal parameters. Given that you were racing it on the track - the DME read could be a problem - depending on how it was being driven.
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Old 03-18-2006, 08:21 PM
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Will let you know the outcome of the lawsuit that has begun.....BMW of Gainesville, Fl bought the car at auction in 2004 then I bought it in 8-04. It is my belief that the recall should have been part of the certification process.

We'll see..............
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:30 AM
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1) There is no RECALL, there are two Service Actions.

2) CPO should include outstanding service action check. EVERY service should have outstanding service action check. It comes up with a dealer puts the VIN into the computer.
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Old 03-19-2006, 06:31 AM
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On track with my M3 and engine blew - found out about the recall - bought it in 9-2004 from a dealer as a certified car - dealer states it is the responsibility of the previous owner - who happens to be them but still having to go through attorney to get my new engine - any ideas how to make this happen quick? Thanks
I expect you will win this case on a two out of three basis. One - CPO status without required/recommended service actions completed, and ECM shows no rpm past fuel cutoff. Two - service actions completed but no rpm past fuel cutoff. You'll win both these scenarios, even though you've been on track with the car. BMW of NA knows all about (and encourages) driving schools, and as long as you weren't at a "competitive event" (read: club race), you're OK.

The way you'll lose is if the ECM readout shows revs past the fuel cutoff. This is most often the result of an early downshift while braking for a corner, or less often (except for the infamous blowups on the '95 cars), the result of getting first when you were going for third, second when you were going for fourth, etc.

If they deny you on the basis of rpm past fuel cutoff, they've got a solid case, and you better have a Godlike attorney.

Bruce
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Old 03-19-2006, 05:07 PM
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Yeah, with an 01 it could very well be a money shift. A BIG reason why SMG is good.
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Dme

The dealer ship no longer has access in the dme to see if red lined or how often, however they sould send it in to enginers and they could read it
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Old 03-25-2006, 04:28 AM
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Actually dealer NEVER had access to DME readout. They all had to be sent to BMW NA. This was required for failed engines.
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