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Old 04-10-2006, 06:30 AM
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double clutch in future generation of SMG..?

Hi friends,

Do you have any knowledge about the future generation of SMG's..?
For example, Icold imagine, that BMW will go for a double-clutch system, which is
apparently so successful at "Audi"...

Will they implement it with the new M3..?

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Old 04-10-2006, 08:39 PM
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I can't imagine they won't have to come up with a counter to the two-clutch systems out there, since they apparently are SO much smoother than the grafted on system being used now with SMG-II and III.

The ideal is a transmission with no slippage (ie - no torque converter) that shifts instantaneously, with no jerking or lost motion. SMG-II doesn't do that. The dual-clutch has a potential to do it.. and I believe BMW is looking at the manual transmission as "old technology" and would like to move away from it (as in the M5 - which to date - doesn't have a manual available.)

Trick is going to be how to do it so it isn't "me too" - and get ZF or Getrag to make the thing. BMW's never been big on "me-too".
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:45 AM
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Thanks very much Don !

I think you are absolutely right...they are certainly already working on the nexe generation, which should be free of any interruption...In a way, I was disaappointed, that they didnt already come-up with it for the new M5...For me, the possible introduction of a groundbraking new SMG in the next M3, could be a reason not to go for the M5..
By the way, o you know, how the SMG's in F1 cars are constructed..? Are they double-clutch based..?

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