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Old 05-19-2006, 03:48 PM
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add +1.0 quarts oil message came on at 13k miles

Got a little light in the dash that looked like a teapot with drops coming out of it. It was a warm day, so at first I thought (feared) the car was overheating. I did a "check control" which is a feature in the little computer between the speedo and the tack, which revealed a message "add +1.0 quarts of oil".

Went to BMW of Sterling (VA) without an appointment and they had me on my way in 15 minutes. The message went away. As I expected, a no-charge $0 visit. Brand new dealership; above average service dept. The repair bay looks like a hospital - not a trace of grease.

Not sure why I burned through a quart of oil. Oh yeah, I drive like an assh0le.
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:25 PM
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same thing happened to me at 14-15 K

pretty nice the whole drive up, get free quart, and drive out thing!
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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oh yeah, and a note

the teapot is always oil related

I used to work at a BMW shop were a girl drove her car for MILES with no oil and ruined the engine with the oil pressure light (teapot) on

at least with our cars we can get an amber warning or a red warning depending on severity
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why would one have to put a quart of oil in a car at 10k + miles? That is a little disappointing to me. I would expect to burn a little oil in a 1960's car or something, but a new car?
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:50 PM
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why would one have to put a quart of oil in a car at 10k + miles? That is a little disappointing to me. I would expect to burn a little oil in a 1960's car or something, but a new car?
I think that is pretty good, and would not complain down to a quart every couple of thousand miles. Plus top off oil now and then greatly helps overall oil life, which is no small consideration with 15k + oil changes.
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:53 PM
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why would one have to put a quart of oil in a car at 10k + miles? That is a little disappointing to me. I would expect to burn a little oil in a 1960's car or something, but a new car?
You must not be familiar with high performance engines.

Typical to burn a quart between 500-10000 miles depending no the car as the rings need to seat. Then very little will have to be added between oil changes if any at all.

My car has not burned any. But most bimmers do. Same for Porsche, Audi, etc.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:15 PM
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why would one have to put a quart of oil in a car at 10k + miles? That is a little disappointing to me. I would expect to burn a little oil in a 1960's car or something, but a new car?

you'd never notice it on 3k or 5k oil change intervals

burning a quart over 10,000 is nothing

most car makes can burn a quart in 3K and still be in manufacturers specs
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i changed my oil every 5k........so no problem with burning oil.......

did 3 oil changed already........car runs like new!
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i changed my oil every 5k........so no problem with burning oil.......

did 3 oil changed already........car runs like new!
Yeah, I guess I don't do 10k before an oil change. I drag race cars, so I may be a little um familiar with hp motors. I really didn't think I would cal a bmw that high performance to be honest. More of a family sedan.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:51 PM
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My service advisor said that the E90 burns a little bit of oil. I had the same light at about 5500 miles. I drive mine pretty hard, but he put in a quart, like westwest said, no charge, was good to go right away.

I lease my car, so I really don't care about why it's burning oil, but I guess I'd be worried if I owned it. As long as its covered on my warranty, I'm happy.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:57 PM
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are you people missing the memo???

under non extended oil change intervals you'd nveer even notice the amount of burning you're currently experiencing
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Yeah westwest, I usually kick an oil change in every 4-5000, but mine is an e46...but you do have a sweet new bmw, if you drive it hard, wouldn't hurt to change it every 5-6000. Best of luck with the nice ride.
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Originally Posted by westwest888
Got a little light in the dash that looked like a teapot with drops coming out of it. It was a warm day, so at first I thought (feared) the car was overheating. I did a "check control" which is a feature in the little computer between the speedo and the tack, which revealed a message "add +1.0 quarts of oil".

Went to BMW of Sterling (VA) without an appointment and they had me on my way in 15 minutes. The message went away. As I expected, a no-charge $0 visit. Brand new dealership; above average service dept. The repair bay looks like a hospital - not a trace of grease.

Not sure why I burned through a quart of oil. Oh yeah, I drive like an assh0le.
Sounds familiar to my situation (M54). I have also seen other threads and posts exactly like this. If you were wondering if this is normal for Bimmer engines, I would say yes.

I added approx 2/3 of a quart at 9K about a year into ownership, it hasn't had to have any added since (26K/3 years later.)

Good luck, nice car.

PS Don't drive like an A**hole all the time!
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Got a little light in the dash that looked like a teapot with drops coming out of it. It was a warm day, so at first I thought (feared) the car was overheating. I did a "check control" which is a feature in the little computer between the speedo and the tack, which revealed a message "add +1.0 quarts of oil".

Went to BMW of Sterling (VA) without an appointment and they had me on my way in 15 minutes. The message went away. As I expected, a no-charge $0 visit. Brand new dealership; above average service dept. The repair bay looks like a hospital - not a trace of grease.

Not sure why I burned through a quart of oil. Oh yeah, I drive like an assh0le.
Sounds familiar to my situation (M54). I have also seen other threads and posts exactly like this. If you were wondering if this is normal for Bimmer engines, I would say yes.

I added approx 2/3 of a quart at 9K about a year into ownership, it hasn't had to have any added since (26K/3 years later.)

Good luck, nice car.
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i changed my oil every 5k........so no problem with burning oil.......

did 3 oil changed already........car runs like new!
you're an animal chief! I plan to do my first oil change around 1,200 - 1,500. and then go on
an every 7,500 mile interval.
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:07 AM
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Yeah, I guess I don't do 10k before an oil change. I drag race cars, so I may be a little um familiar with hp motors. I really didn't think I would cal a bmw that high performance to be honest. More of a family sedan.
With all due respect, your drag engines would get an oil change every what ........ 5 miles max ? And in my lifetime, outputs of 100hp / litre used to be competition standard for engines, so we've come a long way to expect a "family sedan" to produce that in normal use.

My previous car was an E46 318i. If any of you have driven one, you'll know you don't need to drive it like an a**hole, it does it all by itself. Just keeping up with traffic will redline the tach in 1st and 2nd almost its whole life.

Yet it managed to use no oil whatsoever between the scheduled 25,000km (15,500mi) services, for 5yrs / 100,000km. Was I insanely lucky to get a one-off ??

I look forward to a happy time with the M54, but I guess I'll start checking the dipstick a bit more often !!
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Oh boy,here we go again!

All Otto 4 stroke engines burn oil as a normal function of the cycle.
If it didn't burn oil it wouldn't work.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm


BTW which light signal appeared on the trip computer,the one just with the dripping can or the one with the dripping can and the wavy line underneath it?
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Oh boy,here we go again!

All Otto 4 stroke engines burn oil as a normal function of the cycle.
If it didn't burn oil it wouldn't work.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm
Great Link....but this is what it says about oil control...
"Piston rings
Piston rings provide a sliding seal between the outer edge of the piston and the inner edge of the cylinder. The rings serve two purposes:

* They prevent the fuel/air mixture and exhaust in the combustion chamber from leaking into the sump during compression and combustion.
* They keep oil in the sump from leaking into the combustion area, where it would be burned and lost.

Most cars that "burn oil" and have to have a quart added every 1,000 miles are burning it because the engine is old and the rings no longer seal things properly."

Actual "normal" usage is somewhere between almost none, and the howstuffworks statement. ( I can't see anything in the article where it proposes that an engine wouldn't work if it didn't burn oil ! )
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Every cylinder typically has two compression rings and one oil control ring. The oil control ring performs a wiping function, while the compression rings obviously must seal tightly against the cylinder walls to enable high compression. At least a miniscule amount of oil must get through the compression rings, so that they may glide. Slight as it may be, there must be some measurable amount of oil loss, even if it is only a couple of tenths of a quart every 10,000 miles.

If any of you E90 owners also had a Honda S2000, you would understand what serious oil burning is. That is an extremely high performance, high compression, high rpm (9000 red line) engine, and oil consumption of a quart every 2000 miles is perfectly normal - and that's about what I have experienced with mine for four years and 29,000 miles.

As for our E90's, my wife's 325i has about 4600 miles, and the oil check has always come in right on the full line. My 330i has 2700, and the same is true for the oil check.
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add +1.0 quarts oil message came on at 9k+ miles

i have about 9700 miles on my car. End of June will be a yr. As of now, my car says that my first service date is at 11k. Tonight when i was driving home going over 100mph the oil light came on. Earlier today when I did a check I had maybe a little under half left. All of a sudden It was a little under the min when I did an oil check. I am going to check in the morning when I go lift as well. Could this have been I was just speeding on the freeway when I just turned on my car after it had been off for 10hrs or so? If not, can I just call any BMW dealership and get a quart added? Or am I better off going to a gas station??
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Got a little light in the dash that looked like a teapot with drops coming out of it. It was a warm day, so at first I thought (feared) the car was overheating. I did a "check control" which is a feature in the little computer between the speedo and the tack, which revealed a message "add +1.0 quarts of oil".

Went to BMW of Sterling (VA) without an appointment and they had me on my way in 15 minutes. The message went away. As I expected, a no-charge $0 visit. Brand new dealership; above average service dept. The repair bay looks like a hospital - not a trace of grease.

Not sure why I burned through a quart of oil. Oh yeah, I drive like an assh0le.

Why do people wait to for the dripping can to show up to add oil .
Top it off yourselfs

BTW,a dripping can with no wave underneath means LOW OIL PRESSURE
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