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Old 06-06-2006, 04:27 PM
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t's Official! 335 Sedan SOP September 1st!!

I was in talking with my BMW rep today and casually asked him about SOP for E92 335 which he stated was happening now or will be very shortly, (which I knew was true) then said to him, "well what about the 335 sedan?" "Isn't that coming out towards the end of the year?" He then grabbed his production list, and sure enough, it listed E90 335 SOP September 1, 2006. I realize there has been no "Official" annoucement of the E90 335 but you have to believe BMW is waiting until the very end of production of E90 330i to make any official announcement so they can maximize sales and not have everyone wait for the E90 335 (which you know most would). My rep also stated that he didn't think pricing on E90 335 would be much more the E90 330i, maybe $1500 - $2000, because as he said, "there is too much competition in the sport sedan market and BMW doesn't want to lose any market share." So there you go, believe what you want, and say E90 335 won't come out until next year, but I know what I saw and it clearly said SOP 9/1/06.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:05 PM
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Just a few naysayers are nattering on about no 335i for the sedans. Speedfreak insisted for the longest time that the 335i sedan was coming with twin turbos...people insisted otherwise. We'll know soon.

BTW, I agree that BMW is keeping the 335i sedan on the DL so as not to disrupt 06 330i sales. I got an e90 330i because my lease was up on my e46: I also got a two year lease because the 335i was supposedly coming. Hopefully the exhaust will be more exciting and the suspension much firmer than the spongy stuff of the e90 ZSP.
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My rep also stated that he didn't think pricing on E90 335 would be much more the E90 330i, maybe $1500 - $2000, because as he said, "there is too much competition in the sport sedan market and BMW doesn't want to lose any market share." So there you go, believe what you want, and say E90 335 won't come out until next year, but I know what I saw and it clearly said SOP 9/1/06.
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Ok well, I guess I will be ordering the 335i damnit coupe?... Hopefully it will still be cheaper than a 330Xi even after some snow tires.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:35 PM
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I'm not expecting an official announcement until the end of next month.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:50 PM
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so, will we see like 2k rebate for the outgoing 330i or something like that?

i could careless about the 335. 325 is enough for me, but if theres going to be a good incentive to sell off 330's, might as well get one.
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Old 06-06-2006, 07:00 PM
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so, will we see like 2k rebate for the outgoing 330i or something like that?

i could careless about the 335. 325 is enough for me, but if theres going to be a good incentive to sell off 330's, might as well get one.
You'd probably be even better off waiting to buy a 328i, which even at MSRP ought to be cheaper than a discounted 330i. Of course, knock a couple grand off that car's MSRP (which will certainly be possible a couple months into production) and you're saving even more money.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:10 PM
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You'd probably be even better off waiting to buy a 328i, which even at MSRP ought to be cheaper than a discounted 330i. Of course, knock a couple grand off that car's MSRP (which will certainly be possible a couple months into production) and you're saving even more money.

why are they renaming it to 328? will it be a 2.8 liter engine or still have the 3.0?

i know from what i read the 328 will replace the 325 and 335 will replace the 330. will the 328 be priced more than the current 325i and have the same features or will it be priced almost at the 330's with about the same features?

the 335 will be too much $$ for me personally unless i try to lease it. even then, i might be lookingat 800-1000 just in lease.. i'm trying to keep it around the 35-37k mark invoice price. i know people at the dealership and they are goin to sell it to me for $500 over invoice, but i think i'm going to simply lease the car so when the time im done leasing it, i could technically afford possibly a 335( and by then, hopefully an update to the car happens)
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:21 PM
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It'll have a 3.0 (230 hp) as the current 325/330 do. The sedan should, be all accounts, have roughly the same equipment and specifications as the coupe - and there are already officially published numbers and specs for the coupe. The reason I suggest this over the more expensive 330 is that BMW claims the 328i is only a tenth of a second slower to 60 than the 330 is. I don't like relying upon 0-60 times (I think they're useless and too easy to manipulate), but it's all we have to go on at the moment.

What we don't know are prices, but if the 328 is to replace the 325, it can't be much more expensive - $1000 at most. So figure around $32,000 MSRP to start, before options. If you expect to get the 330 for $500 over invoice and can reasonably assume $1500 over invoice with a 328 a couple months after release, then the difference is still several thousand dollars, even identically equipped.
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Alfred, why do you think a lease would be $800-$1000?
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:53 PM
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i use the leasing of a e46 m3 as my base point and generally its around there.

if the a decent loaded e46 m3 is around 50k, thats a lease roughly from 800-1000

ill assume the msrp of the 335i will be maybe 2k more than the 330 current is at.

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well i know they're not gonna be happy if and when these new models roll out. the GM told me he really wouldnt be able to touch the price too much. he told it its best if i wait.


i'm also thinking of leasing a 2007 now and in 3 years see where i'm at and where the design,my income and pricing of bmws are at.
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Old 06-07-2006, 04:45 AM
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Who's they? The dealer? I'm sure he'll be ecstatic, especially if he can convince people he can't wiggle on his profit margin.
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Alfred, if you're paying $800 - $1000 for a BMW lease, you had better be driving a 6 or 7 series or at least a loaded 550!
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Old 06-07-2006, 05:39 AM
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i could careless about the 335.
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I couldn't care less about the 335.
Sorry, that one always bugs me. Carry on.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:03 AM
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well i know they're not gonna be happy if and when these new models roll out. the GM told me he really wouldnt be able to touch the price too much. he told it its best if i wait.


i'm also thinking of leasing a 2007 now and in 3 years see where i'm at and where the design,my income and pricing of bmws are at.
How many times have I heard that before ... my response .. ok I'll go buy it from someone else ... And I do .....

I buy a new company car every 2 to 3 years. Over the last 15 years I think I've heard just about every reason why a dealer can't sell a car at a certain price I want. I've always been able to find a dealer willing to sell me a car at 500 dollars over invoice max (not including dealer or consumer rebates those go would make it below invoice if they are available). I'd guess there are occasions where there is a hot car in the market that the dealer is not willing to sell cheap, but there are too many other cars just as good to pay the any type of premium.

Typically, I get the invoice pricing from Edmunds, add the destination charge, 500 profit, tax, tag, lemon and sign a check. (no dealer fee, no MACO, no Training) Hand it to them and say ... do we have a deal. If not I move on. I don't sit and negotiate. It's a waste of time and not in my interest. I've bought 5 cars this way ... normally it only takes 2 to 3 dealers before I find one to bite. However, being in the Atlanta area helps as we have so many dealers they have to compete. I've only once had to go out of state to purchase a car ... and that was only because I was at my In-laws in Florida and they were the first dealer I offered the deal to.

I do mostly buy a car off lot ... I was going to order the BMW, but the dealer had on on lot that had all the options I wanted except split folding seats.

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Old 06-07-2006, 07:59 AM
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dealer i know is fairfax bmw.
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Most likely scenario:

07 the 328/335i
Maybe 08 328/335
By 09 the cars will be the 330/335.

They did this with the e46s too. They arrived as the 323 and 328 even though the engines were 2.5 and 2.8 liters. They didn't want people confusing the new e46 323 with the old e36 325.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:23 AM
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They did this with the e46s too. They arrived as the 323 and 328 even though the engines were 2.5 and 2.8 liters. They didn't want people confusing the new e46 323 with the old e36 325.
I think it was more a matter of wanting to put some market seperation between the two. Nobody would have paid the $4000 premium for the 328 if BMW properly badged the 323 as a 325 and rated it at its actual power output (which, based on dyno evidence, is around 185 hp).
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There's 7 dealers here man. Do your homework. Passport is the best deal on a new car, Sterling is the best for service IMO.
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i use the leasing of a e46 m3 as my base point and generally its around there.

if the a decent loaded e46 m3 is around 50k, thats a lease roughly from 800-1000

ill assume the msrp of the 335i will be maybe 2k more than the 330 current is at.

I wonder about your logic. A average spec'd 330 today will lease around 600 incl. tax. If the 335 is a few thousand more then you should be able to get it for $650 per month after the initial demand wears off a bit.

My understanding M3 leases are usually much higher than the same priced regular 3 due to demand. I may be wrong there though.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:38 AM
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There's 7 dealers here man. Do your homework. Passport is the best deal on a new car, Sterling is the best for service IMO.

im still 50/50 on sterling bmw. my brother got my sisters car from sterling bmw.

i used to talk to a sales rep (forget his name) from sterling about custom ordering colors, just to see how honest they are. he was but too bad he turned to become a sales manager of their mini.



i'll most likely end up waiting for the 328xi at this rate.


as far as my lease, i dont plan to put down downpayment, just the other stuff.
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I wonder about your logic. A average spec'd 330 today will lease around 600 incl. tax. If the 335 is a few thousand more then you should be able to get it for $650 per month after the initial demand wears off a bit.

My understanding M3 leases are usually much higher than the same priced regular 3 due to demand. I may be wrong there though.
MONEY FACTOR (intrest rate) on all M cars and 6 series are always the highest and of course these same cars are usually sold or leased at or near MSRP.
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