Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)

E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
The E9X is the 4th evolution of the BMW 3 series including a highly tuned twin turbo 335i variant pushing out 300hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque. BMW continues to show that it sets the bar for true driving performance! -- View the E9X Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-04-2007, 05:59 AM
Russs335i Russs335i is offline
Russ335i
Location: Germany
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1
Mein Auto: BMW 335I Coupe
335I Engine Malfunction

One of the reasons I joined this forum is to see if anyone else has experiended a similar problem I'm having with my 335I Coupe. I'm currently living in Germany and purchased my American spec 335I Coupe in Nov and have approx 4100 miles on it. While crusing at approx 80 MPH in 6 gear my car started to run rough, acting as if a spark plug was misfiring or water was in the gas tank. Eventually an engine fault indication appeared on my display and the words power reduced service engine also appeared. I took it to my local dealer and was informed there was a recall and I needed new software. The software was loaded and the probelm remained. I took it to a different dealer and they hooked it up to their computer and found nothing wrong. I will take it for a thrid time because I'm still having the problem. When driving agressively and shifting throught the gears at high RPMs I don't experience the problem only at crusing speed and lower RPMs. Has anyone else had this problem?
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 03-04-2007, 07:31 AM
Steve Espo Steve Espo is offline
Registered User
Location: New York
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Coupe
Possible fuel pump issue. Has been a fairly common problem on these engines.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-04-2007, 10:38 PM
tenzig tenzig is offline
Registered User
Location: santa barbara
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6
Mein Auto: 335i
I had the exact same problem you described to a T. The dealer replaced the fuel pump (one week back ordered) and the problem immediately went away.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-04-2007, 11:04 PM
WalterMiddy WalterMiddy is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Southern California
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 255
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Sedan
My 335i Sedan was manufactured in December and delivered in early Februrary. I had the fuel pump replaced after 2000 miles when the car started taking extra long to crank over because the fuel in the line was flowing back while it sat. I also noticed that when I punched it at times the car studdered, as it were. It will take about a week to get the part, but your dealer will likely give you a loaner if you take it to the place you bought it.

Take it in stride. Not a big deal.

Good luck and let us know how it all turns out.
__________________
335i 2007 Sedan: Arctic / Terra / Sport Pkg / Cold Pkg / Comfort Access / Active Cruise / Nav /Sirius / Park Assist / Oil Cooler /
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-07-2007, 03:27 PM
drjensen's Avatar
drjensen drjensen is offline
Registered User
Location: Irvine, CA
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 59
Mein Auto: 2008 335i Coupe
I have a similar problem. My car bucks/hesitates at low RPMs, especially when the engine is cold. I took it to the dealer yesterday morning, and they are working with BMW North America on diagnosing the problem. They said my car already has the most current software, and they think it is actually a fuel pump problem. I'm waiting to hear back from my service advisor for an update on the diagnosis. I hope I don't have to be without my car for long. I've only had it since Feb. 3.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-07-2007, 04:25 PM
SenSpeed SenSpeed is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: GremVille
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 339
Mein Auto: Gremlin
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenzig View Post
I had the exact same problem you described to a T. The dealer replaced the fuel pump (one week back ordered) and the problem immediately went away.
Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-07-2007, 05:21 PM
Andre Andre is offline
Resu Deretsiger
Location: Canada
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 160
Mein Auto: 2007 335i E90 AW CA ZSP
My ZHP had that issue. Turned out to be a coil issue.
__________________
'07 E90 335i - Alpine White, Sport Package, CA, 6FL
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-07-2007, 05:33 PM
johnc_22's Avatar
johnc_22 johnc_22 is offline
Squeal like a BMW
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,594
Mein Auto: 2013 Audi A4
I think the fuel pump issues were related to an early build period but cars built recently shouldn't have this problem. I think if you search you can find the specific date range that was affected.
__________________
2013 Audi A4 - Premium+/Sport/MMI/B+O Audio
2007 BMW E90 335i (retired)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Fast Bob's Avatar
Fast Bob Fast Bob is online now
Keeping it surreal
Location: Here, there, everywhere....
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 34,266
Mein Auto: 2004 330Ci ZHP 3 pedals
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenSpeed View Post
Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
Jeezus, man....can`t you read???? It`s NOT an engine problem, it`s a fuel pump (or other auxiliary system component) problem....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-07-2007, 07:24 PM
SenSpeed SenSpeed is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: GremVille
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 339
Mein Auto: Gremlin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Bob View Post
Jeezus, man....can`t you read???? It`s NOT an engine problem, it`s a fuel pump (or other auxiliary system component) problem....
you mean like when you have a stroke it's not a brain problem but a blood vessel problem? dont be a dumbass. I can read just fine.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-07-2007, 07:46 PM
Bombay Jay's Avatar
Bombay Jay Bombay Jay is offline
In the heat
Location: Found new cul-de-sac!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,279
Mein Auto: '08 Chevy Trailblazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenSpeed View Post
you mean like when you have a stroke it's not a brain problem but a blood vessel problem? dont be a dumbass. I can read just fine.
Reading and comprehension are two different things!
__________________
HARK
330i monaco blue, -- ED pickup 4/28 -- Frankfort Dropoff 5/2 -- Redelivery 6/10 Chi-town
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-07-2007, 07:53 PM
picus picus is offline
Banned
Location: Toronto, ON
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 273
Mein Auto: Cars
It's not the main fuel pump, it's the secondary high pressure fuel pump. It runs at a very high pressure so it's sort of not a huge shock they are dying. Apparently it's limited to a certain production run though, so once these are all sorted we should stop hearing about them.

It's a pretty easy fix too.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Bombay Jay's Avatar
Bombay Jay Bombay Jay is offline
In the heat
Location: Found new cul-de-sac!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,279
Mein Auto: '08 Chevy Trailblazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by picus View Post
It's not the main fuel pump, it's the secondary high pressure fuel pump. It runs at a very high pressure so it's sort of not a huge shock they are dying. Apparently it's limited to a certain production run though, so once these are all sorted we should stop hearing about them.

It's a pretty easy fix too.
More than 30 psi??
__________________
HARK
330i monaco blue, -- ED pickup 4/28 -- Frankfort Dropoff 5/2 -- Redelivery 6/10 Chi-town
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-07-2007, 09:24 PM
roup1's Avatar
roup1 roup1 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Bimmerfest
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: Bavarian
I had the same symptoms (09/06 build) and needed a new HP fuel pump. It took 11 days to get BMWNA to approve the repair and get the part from Germany. As of a few weeks ago, there was a national backorder...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-08-2007, 08:52 AM
drjensen's Avatar
drjensen drjensen is offline
Registered User
Location: Irvine, CA
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 59
Mein Auto: 2008 335i Coupe
I just heard from my Service Advisor. He said that BMW NA approved the replacement of the high pressure fuel pump in my car. He said the part is on backorder, as expected, and he said I can come pick up my car and hold onto it until the part comes in. That way I don't have to drive the smoke stinking loaner they gave me. By the way, my car was a 12/23/06 build. Attached is the service bulletin I found on the problem. You can see that they now think the problem exists on engines produced between 6/06 and 12/1/06. And that is the ENGINE build date, not the car build date.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf BMW_Bulletin_125506 (fuel pump).pdf (68.4 KB, 475 views)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-08-2007, 10:47 AM
SenSpeed SenSpeed is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: GremVille
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 339
Mein Auto: Gremlin
man you guys, this is no ok. fuel pump or not. at 3000 miles? Multiple failures? Give me a break. blind loyalty can only get in the way of improving a product. Look a ford and chevy. Their cars sucks and it had been ok because people still bought them. Now facing share loss they actually starting to make better cars.

So stop defending the cars defects and maybe BMW will start building more reliable cars. Wake up and realize that BMW didn't fully validate this vehicle and are using the first batch of owners to do the most basic of tests. Any sort of decent testing would have uncovered this.

Some of you guys are like the moms that defend their obnoxious kids without reason and point to other kids. It cracks me up every time I see a "Infiniti recalled 1000 times!" thread on the 3series board.

Last edited by SenSpeed; 03-08-2007 at 10:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-08-2007, 10:51 AM
picus picus is offline
Banned
Location: Toronto, ON
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 273
Mein Auto: Cars
No one is defending them (at least I don't think?), we're just pointing out the facts behind this issue. It's a secondary high pressure pump, it effects engines built between June '06 and Dec '06, the repair itself is not difficult, nor is diagnosing it (it's a black or white yes or no code), but the part is on backorder so it can take some time. Yes, it sucks; same as the engine oil cooler being left out of auto's with ZSP sucks - but get some perspective, in terms of brand new model launches this one has been surprisingly uneventful.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-08-2007, 10:52 AM
sflgator's Avatar
sflgator sflgator is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Florida
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 311
Mein Auto: '07 BMW 335i Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenSpeed View Post
Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
No, that's not true...a small percentage of ppl on BMW Enthusiast Internet Forums are having some issues, but a majority of 335i owners are enjoying trouble-free driving!

FWIW -- to the OP, it does sound like the fuel pump problem.
__________________
'07 335i Coupe

|Sparkling Graphite|Black Leather|Aluminum Trim|AT|Paddles|Prem|Sport|Navi|CA|Sirius|SS Pedals|Tint|
|MTEC Super White HID Coronas|19" Morr Forged VS7s|Falken FK452s|Rear Lip Spoiler|BMC Air Filter|PROcede v2|
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-08-2007, 11:00 AM
roup1's Avatar
roup1 roup1 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Bimmerfest
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: Bavarian
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenSpeed View Post
So stop defending the cars defects and maybe BMW will start building more reliable cars. Wake up and realize that BMW didn't fully validate this vehicle and are using the first batch of owners to do the most basic of tests. Any sort of decent testing would have uncovered this.
I have yet to see a single post "defending the cars defects..." Although these cars are thoroughly tested before launch, I know that this is not uncommon for a first year car. I bought my 335i knowing that I would be one of the first owners and that there might be some teething issues. It's the price that we pay for being on the bleeding edge and having the newest toy in the neighborhood!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-08-2007, 01:11 PM
SenSpeed SenSpeed is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: GremVille
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 339
Mein Auto: Gremlin
Quote:
Originally Posted by roup1 View Post
I have yet to see a single post "defending the cars defects..." Although these cars are thoroughly tested before launch, I know that this is not uncommon for a first year car. I bought my 335i knowing that I would be one of the first owners and that there might be some teething issues. It's the price that we pay for being on the bleeding edge and having the newest toy in the neighborhood!
definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-08-2007, 01:35 PM
zim248 zim248 is offline
Registered User
Location: charleston, sc
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 44
Mein Auto: bmw 335i Coupe
Hey,

I don't want to jinx my 335i coupe, but I'm at 4000 miles and it's running great. I did have a nail in one of my runflats and had to replace it..........$350- ouch.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-08-2007, 02:13 PM
DenverNoob DenverNoob is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Denver, CO
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 291
Mein Auto: 2004.5 Audi A4 1.8T
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim248 View Post
Hey,

I don't want to jinx my 335i coupe, but I'm at 4000 miles and it's running great. I did have a nail in one of my runflats and had to replace it..........$350- ouch.
knock on wood my friend!

i support the teething theory here honestly...people should know that in technically advanced cars the first MY has issues...i mean look at toyota/lexus! the haulted the launch of several new MY cars last year because there were pre-release issues not caught in initial testing!

fact of the matter is this...direct injection is a new technology for production cars...audi brought it in MY 2005.5 with the 2.0T FSI...and that has initial fuel pump issues fixed for MY 2006+...if you want ot lead the pack in ownership you MUST accept the fact that these things happen. furthermore, FI is new for BMW after decades of hiatus...there will be a few bumps in the road, and at the end of the day that is what a waranty is for.

by MY 2008 all of these little issues will have been resolved and it wil be back to normal for the 335, and time to run into issues with the new m3!
__________________
2004.5 Audi A4 1.8T QMT6 Ultrasport Loaded

Bullseye Power S256 Turbo, Built Engine by Autobahn Premier Service of Denver, CO.

Fast....really really really fast.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-08-2007, 03:18 PM
quidycat quidycat is offline
Registered User
Location: san diego
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 85
Mein Auto: bmw 335 convertible
i agree that it's not acceptable for having more than average reliability issues on cars costing a lot more than average. can't german car companies learn from janpanese companies? there really isn't any excuse. and making new car owner wait for parts to fix problems is poor customer care. i'm impressed that most toyotas are built in the usa and are able to maintain their quality.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-08-2007, 04:49 PM
LA525iT's Avatar
LA525iT LA525iT is offline
swinging a big stick
Location: Marina del Rey, CA
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,946
Mein Auto: 03 525iT & 06 Z4 3.0si
Quote:
Originally Posted by quidycat View Post
i agree that it's not acceptable for having more than average reliability issues on cars costing a lot more than average. can't german car companies learn from janpanese companies? there really isn't any excuse. and making new car owner wait for parts to fix problems is poor customer care. i'm impressed that most toyotas are built in the usa and are able to maintain their quality.
It's not the origin of the car, the lesson is to never buy a new product in its first year. I can assure you that my E39 (last year of production) has been way more reliable in its first 50k miles than my old 1997 Toyota Camry (first year of that bodystyle's production, and my car was built in Japan not Kentucky)
__________________
My car: 2003 525iT 5M/SP/PP/Xenons/Aux/Sirius
Her car: 2006 Z4 3.0si 6M/SP/PP/Xenons/Heated Seats
Dog car: 1996 Integra SE 5M/Leather/Dog Fur/Sand
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-08-2007, 09:44 PM
picus picus is offline
Banned
Location: Toronto, ON
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 273
Mein Auto: Cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenSpeed View Post
definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
Maybe there is just a different perspective coming from BMW owners compared to, in your example, S2000 owners. I'm a pretty laid back guy. If my car had the fuel pump problem I'd make an appointment, drive a loaner for a week, and then get my car back fixed. If it were another brand of car I'd look at this issue the exact same way. If I continued to have problems then I would start to look at other solution; but right now this particular problem seems to be well handled. I don't know, that's just me.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
335i Starter Motor Cranks Extra Long before Engine Starts WalterMiddy E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) 5 02-21-2007 12:40 AM
New 335i turbo engine in base Z4 Coupe? Cornhusker E36/7 Z3 (1996-2002) 35 09-28-2006 07:32 PM
E65 V12 debuts nate General BMW 21 07-14-2004 09:04 PM
BMW Update for S54 Engines BMWNA M Series 2 08-13-2003 05:55 PM
Product review: Griot's Engine cleaner kit(m) The HACK The Detail Department 20 01-08-2002 07:56 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms