Missing a shift on the new M3, Do you worry?

It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?

I don't figure the risk is any different than shifting at the limit when the limits are lower. You'll still bend the valves in most econoboxes if you do that. I had one of the early S2000's, shifting at 9K RPM! Second gear syncromesh was a weakness in that design (replaced twice under warranty, agreed not my fault). And before that, an Integra GSR (8K RPM) that made 80K miles before trade-in. Can't wait to try this new motor.

At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.

Originally Posted by philippek@IrvineBMW

At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.

A little too fast for "late at night, a kinda tired", don't you think

This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

Originally Posted by ffej

This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.

Originally Posted by ffej

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

Kevlar umbrella.

People that live in Linköping, Sweden, swear by them with all of the SAAB aircraft regularly falling out of the sky.


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Originally Posted by jetstream23

Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.

Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway.

Originally Posted by ffej

This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...

I just figure that if I can't afford to replace the engine, I shouldn't be driving that hard. And I figure that I could have blown up at least a couple of engines for what ditching an SMG II car cost me.

Originally Posted by Cliff

You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...

Icy BM or ICBM?

Originally Posted by jvr826

Icy BM or ICBM?

The former. Ever read Spider Robinson?

Just pretend that 4th is the top gear and you'll never have to worry about that. Hmm....that might not work, what if you go from 3rd to 2nd when you want 4th? OK, here's the new plan just shift from 1st to 2nd and stop there. You should be able to do 65 in 2nd so you'll be fine on the highway and you'll NEVER have to worry about a miss shift again. Problem solved, you're welcome.

Originally Posted by Rob325_in_AZ

Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway.

Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!

Originally Posted by akak1997

It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?

No SMG coming, but this may be the dual clatch tranny coming next year in the E92 M3.



KEY BENEFITS
- Optimized efficiency
- Shifting without interruption of traction
- Excellent comfort
- Very quick and sportive shiftings possible
Max. Torque Capacity 600 Nm
Weight (dry) 79 kg
Installation length 660 mm
Synchronization
1st, 2nd and 3th gear dual cone
4th and 5th gear single cone
6th, and 7th gear dual cone
Reverse gear single cone

Gear Spread Ratio 6,8
Max. Gross Vehicle Mass/Gross Trailer Mass 2500 kg/4500 kg
Shifter System hydraulic
Miscellaneous DCT dual clutch transmission

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Click on Transmissions/Dual Clutch Transmissions, then from the popdowns on the right DCT/Inline/Over 400 NM Torque

perfect

Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?

Originally Posted by GSIRM3

Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?

Not a big difference, but I bet the S65 will be a bit more to rebuild than the S54. Aluminum block, more pistons, valves, etc.

This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

Originally Posted by jetstream23

Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!

Usually I like it when my plane lands lower than 50ft up in the air.

Originally Posted by cwsqbm

This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

Do you own an M3? I just had my ECU sent to an BMWNA engineer in NJ due to my VANOS destruction. The dealer tried to blame it on me! I had a major worry.....$16,000 for a new motor installation on a car with 5000 miles. I have the means but can think of alot of great add-ons for my car for that kind of money. It was covered becuase there was no "money shift" recorded.

Ed

Proper shift technique will prevent misshifts: http://www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm

The BMW shift levers are actually ergonomically designed for this sort of shifting. Note that rather than using the typical ball on stick design, their shifters are shaped more like handles. Ever wonder why?

I always cringe when I watch people (most people who drive a manual trans) simply grope the shifter from the top and slam it from gear to gear. Of course, most people driving a manual trans don't know how to downshift properly, either.

Originally Posted by GregW in Oregon

Weight (dry) 79 kg

Holy crap! And I thought the 6 speed was way heavy...that weight is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by cwsqbm

This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

How was Road America?