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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
BMWs throw back to the iconic 2002, with a renewed form and function. The smallest car in BMW's line up but still packs a punch. Available in coupe or convertible, powered by either an inline 6 in the 128 or the twin turbo rocket sled 135.

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128i 23 21.90%
135i 82 78.10%
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:40 PM
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What's wrong with a base model? Less stuff to break.

I've NEVER understood why people buy loaded up Toyota Camries or Honda Accords. As you know, those things can climb well into the $30s. Whenever I see a loaded-up Camry I feel like smacking the owner in the face and saying "Why couldn't you just settle for a base Lexus?!". And then there's the people who buy the loaded up minivans, that also run into the upper 30s. A $38k minivan? I'm sorry but that just doesn't make any financial sense at all, not in the slightest sense. And these same people complain about how expensive BMWs and other luxury brands are.
Yup me neither, I think they don't realize how "affordable" the 3er is, and here they are paying more for their loaded Camry than they would for a nicely equiped 325 or 328

But perhaps Bob is right and they aren't badge whores.

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In the mid-20s, you can get a decently equipped VW GTI .
*nodding in agreement* Thats one thing I like about VW's nicely equiped "standard" models. Their handling is decent but not BMW levels of course
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:13 PM
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:32 PM
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Give me the monster power of 135i
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:17 AM
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I had thought about getting a 128i... I miss the NA power curve and responsiveness, but with no LSD and the lack of the M parts (brakes, suspension, something about slower throttle response...). It really losses its appeal... I will have to test drive it to really see.

So that leaves the 335i a 330hp RWD mid $30k turbo car with an open rear diff? ... screw that crap. Only good think is bmw will replace the brakes for free... untill you hit 50k... then I guess you could buy a LSD.

Guess I will be looking at an Evo early next year.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:54 AM
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Yup me neither, I think they don't realize how "affordable" the 3er is, and here they are paying more for their loaded Camry than they would for a nicely equiped 325 or 328
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simple; camrys/accords are the size of a 5 series.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:28 AM
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128i - because of price, and fuel efficiency

I would buy the 128i, with no options except sport package. I would prefer no moonroof, and cloth seats. Two main reasons for 128i:

(1) fuel efficiency. Oil money is fueling repressive and dangerous governments all over the planet. Like many others, I would like to see a sub 3,000 lb 1-series with 4 cylinders. Where I live in suburban Washington, the power of the 135i is useless.

(2) cost. My 2007 328i cost about $35.6K with tax. Thats a lot of cash for many of us. And hard to justify when very good technology is trickling down to the inexpensive cars (e.g. Mazda 3).

Basically, I want to see an entry level 1-series priced the same as the Audi A3. Must weigh 3,000 pounds or less for better handling and fuel efficiency, but be nearly as safe as a 3-series.

Oh well. I guess I would need to move to Europe. Very few people in the U.S. that want the BMW steering, suspension, and design aesthetics, without the blindingly fast straight line speed (and high fuel consumption). Someday not too far off, maybe a BMW fuel-cell all-electric will fit my needs and be popular in the U.S.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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Two main reasons for 128i:

(1) fuel efficiency. Oil money is fueling repressive and dangerous governments all over the planet. Like many others, I would like to see a sub 3,000 lb 1-series with 4 cylinders. Where I live in suburban Washington, the power of the 135i is useless.
But the 328i is no better than 335i:

328i = 20/29 mpg
335i = 19/29 mpg
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I can't think of a single good reason to get the 128i. If history holds, it will be about $5k cheaper than the 135i, but will have less standard equipment, so the real delta will be $2500-3k. A total no-brainer for me.

The only struggle for me will be not to over-equip this car. I really want Bluetooth and Nav, but would skip the moonroof and even leather. Probably looking at:

135i
6 speed Manual
Sport
Navi
Bluetooth
i'm not sure i've ever posted here, lol. but i'm totally in the market for those particular specs. personally i wish vw came out with something like this

i was looking at the new R32 but i think i might jump ship to bmw after being a vw loyalist for about 10 years.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:03 PM
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Why do you guys need so many luxury features in a mere mid-$20s coupe? As long as it drives damn well and has a couple things, that's kind of the point. There's another BMW that gives you more features. It's called the 3-series.
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If I was buying a new BMW right now for commuter duty (pre 1 series release), it'd be a 328i with only the sport package. Everything else is nice, but it takes a car that is reasonable and makes it expensive. I alternate back and forth between my E30 and my loaded E46, and the only thing I miss when driving the E30 is functioning A/C especially the last couple days- power seats, nav, computer, bluetooth, keyless entry, DSC, power moonroof, leather, xenons, etc don't add to the thrill of the drive.
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If I was buying a new BMW right now for commuter duty (pre 1 series release), it'd be a 328i with only the sport package. Everything else is nice, but it takes a car that is reasonable and makes it expensive. I alternate back and forth between my E30 and my loaded E46, and the only thing I miss when driving the E30 is functioning A/C especially the last couple days- power seats, nav, computer, bluetooth, keyless entry, DSC, power moonroof, leather, xenons, etc don't add to the thrill of the drive.
I'd contend xenons do add to the drive - at night. I can do without the rest (though I miss my e90's comfort access) but no xenons = no car.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:46 AM
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What you want is the shortly forthcoming 123d....
forthcoming in the U.S. or in europe only? thanks.
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forthcoming in the U.S. or in europe only? thanks.
to answer my own question; the 123d was announced for europe only for the time-being.
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to answer my own question; the 123d was announced for europe only for the time-being.
Is this the one with the urea tank Diesel? That's the motor they are bringing to the US.
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Is this the one with the urea tank Diesel? That's the motor they are bringing to the US.
i think that most if not all of the diesels that are coming and some that are here already will be employing urea to reduce nitrousoxide emissions but i believe that with respect to bmw the six cyl. diesels are coming first for the 5/7 series. the 123d motor is a 4 cyl.
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i think that most if not all of the diesels that are coming and some that are here already will be employing urea to reduce nitrousoxide emissions but i believe that with respect to bmw the six cyl. diesels are coming first for the 5/7 series. the 123d motor is a 4 cyl.

Tom Purves of BMW NA confirmed that the diesel engines coming will all be using the urea scrubbing system, for 50 state emissions regs. This was at the annual NJ BMW CCA meeting they have up at Woodcliff Lake. If the 123d motor doesn't have it, it's not coming to the US.
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