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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 09-24-2007, 09:27 AM
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This done this to me on my 1998 Compact and i still havent got the old one out as it collapsed completely, currently using the red box from the other end of the lock, got the new barrel apparently just a straight swap just gotta remove the old one

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Old 09-24-2007, 08:30 PM
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So is it just when you get the new key and barrel that you need it re-programmed or was that dealer in SF wrong?
As far as I know a new key does not need programming. I have one coming this week.

As for the ignition barrel swap only, I haven't had anyone here "confirm" it is a straight swap on a '95 and later car.

I'm going to order a barrel later this week and try it. I'll post.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:57 PM
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As far as I know a new key does not need programming. I have one coming this week.

As for the ignition barrel swap only, I haven't had anyone here "confirm" it is a straight swap on a '95 and later car.

I'm going to order a barrel later this week and try it. I'll post.
Mine is a '97 and my mechanic told me it's a straight swap
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:44 PM
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Ordered my barrel yesterday. The parts guy again said I needed it reprogrammed. I said I donít think it does, so he went back to the service dept. and asked.

Service guy said if youíre replacing only the barrel with the original key code then no, it doesnít need to be reprogrammed, but, the carrier around the barrel is something that wears out and needs to be replaced often. Often enough that they keep in stock more than one at a time. If the carrier needs replacing then it needs to be reprogrammed.

So Iíll try changing my barrel first and see what happens. Maybe by then someone will post how to reprogram a carrier without going to the stealer.
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:23 AM
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Just a quik update;

I got my new barrel today (£43) and it took a lil less than 30mins to get the old one out and the new one in

I can now say with 100% certainty that a barrel ignition swap on a car up to 1997 DOES NOT need new software - it is just a straight swap

I also found that a paper clip wasn't strong enough and would recommend taking some pliers to an old keyring

And the spline that breaks off is tiny!! 1mmx2mm!!

No idea if a carrier creplacement need re-programming or not tho...........
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:15 AM
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Just a quik update;

I got my new barrel today (£43) and it took a lil less than 30mins to get the old one out and the new one in

I can now say with 100% certainty that a barrel ignition swap on a car up to 1997 DOES NOT need new software - it is just a straight swap

I also found that a paper clip wasn't strong enough and would recommend taking some pliers to an old keyring

And the spline that breaks off is tiny!! 1mmx2mm!!

No idea if a carrier creplacement need re-programming or not tho...........
Thanks for the confirmation!!
I also assume this fixed your "spinning" problem, so no carrier is needed.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:20 PM
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Thanks for the confirmation!!
I also assume this fixed your "spinning" problem, so no carrier is needed.
I posted a complete breakdown on this thread;

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=233588

but the short answer is no, i didn't need a new carrier.
You only need one of them if u have COMPLETE failure of ur ignition barrel.
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:58 PM
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Great writeup!!! I'll also post when I get my barrel. Thanks!!
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:05 PM
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Great writeup!!! I'll also post when I get my barrel. Thanks!!
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:21 PM
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We are still waiting for our barrel takes 10 working days to get to the other side of the pond. lol You need to use the large paperclip to get the old one out. Your write up is sure to help anyone with the same problem.
Will post back after new barrel arrives and is installed.

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Old 10-04-2007, 11:44 PM
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O.K. I installed my ignition barrel tonight on my 1997 328is.

IT WORKS GREAT!!! The ignition is tight now, like it should be. The little tab was totally sheared off mine. Glad it didnít fail me!! I have not driven it but it started 3 times normally.

The directions here were very useful: http://www.bolhuijo.com/bmwlockcylinder/
I was able to practice first.
These were also helpfull although I couldn't get the pictures up.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...74&highlight=i
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...+lock+cylinder
It was a little tight getting the barrel out. Watch for an ďOĒ ring. It goes back on after you reinstall the barrel, but before you reinstall the ring.

The only problem I had was the ring around the original barrel with 2 small wires connected to it. I guess I didnít read the other posts very well because I was not ready for that.

There are 3 main clips and about 30 small clips inside the ring that hold it on to the slightly raised ledge on the black part of the barrel. I was able to take a ĹĒ wood chisel and cut away, by scrapping, 1/3rd or the clips (1 big clip and 10 little clips). Then I was able to pry it off. This still left 2/3rds of the clips intact so I was able to reinstall it. With the trim back in place it canít be seen.

Thinking about it nowÖ.It may have been easier to cut those clips with a fine hacksaw blade. Only cut about 1/3rd of the clips if you want to reuse it.

I read in another post to buy the ring when you buy the barrel because most likely it will break, I was lucky.

Thanks to everyone who helped me!!!
Hope that this may help others.
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:06 AM
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Went to the dealer to order a new key and an ignition cylinder. The key is on order and should be here in less than a week, but...... he informed me that after Jan. 1995 the ignition needs to be reprogrammed if disconnected, otherwise the car will not recognize the new ignition switch.

Has anyone here done this job who owns a car built after Jan. 1995?
If you went to BMWSF and got the fairly decent looking chick to help you,she is an airhead.There is a reason why she is on the front counter,so you keep coming back for more.All you need is the ignition lock cylinder and six forms of id including your parents marriage certificate and proof of presidency.Thats only in the PRK (Peoples Republik of KaliPORNya).
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:50 AM
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Thinking about it nowÖ..It may have been easier to cut those clips with a fine hacksaw blade. Only cut about 1/3rd of the clips if you want to reuse it.

I read in another post to buy the ring when you buy the barrel because most likely it will break, I was lucky.
Huh, i had no problem with that one. I just gently prised it off with a small screwdriver

I have, however, done a ton of jobs similar to this one

It did require a lil patience mind but I imagine a new clip isn't expensive from a dealer anyways
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:20 AM
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Huh, i had no problem with that one. I just gently prised it off with a small screwdriver
Interesting...I tried 4 different screwdrivers and my pocketknife before I used the wood chisel. I used the chisel to try to get more of a bite. The screwdrivers did next to nothing, except on the small clips where they chipped, and my knife was going to break the blade. Thatís when I went for the chisel.
When I tried to pry the large clips with the chisel nothing moved, that's when the scraping started. I was beginning to think it was metal and not plastic. Mine was a very hard, nonpliable plastic.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:26 AM
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well this barrel is a nightmare.i've used a chisel and few screwdrivers before it came out.it was a hell of a fight.some of you guys have more luck then i do.
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