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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
BMWs throw back to the iconic 2002, with a renewed form and function. The smallest car in BMW's line up but still packs a punch. Available in coupe or convertible, powered by either an inline 6 in the 128 or the twin turbo rocket sled 135.

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Old 11-06-2007, 10:59 AM
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Bring high mileage enthusiast cars to US! Like the 123d!

Had occasion to pick up a copy of "Car" magazine from the UK recently--a great publication for those who haven't seen it.

What's shocking to an American reader is how different the automobile market is there--loads of fuel-efficient cars--some small and inexpensive, some mid-range--and also upmarket diesels like the big MB's and BMW's of course.

What I can't seem to figure out is what's bogging down imports of high quality, high performance, high mileage diesels to the US.

Given our pathetic fascination with gas guzzling behemoths (and sorry, I'm including the Bimmer SUV's in that), we can't seem to reconcile the need to conserve fuel and money--but we can have our cake and eat it too!

I'd be in line for a 123d if it came as a coupe--maybe even for a 3 series diesel powered coupe if they can keep the mileage up there. What's not to love?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:59 PM
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1. high sulphur fuel (recently fixed)
2. emission reasons- manufacturers are still having a hard time getting diesels that are 50 state legal
3. historically low fuel prices compared to other parts of the world meant really fuel efficient vehicles were not sought after
4. stigma that diesels are noisy, dirty cars has been around since the 70s
5. no tax reasons to buy smaller displacement cars
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:16 PM
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1. high sulphur fuel (recently fixed)
2. emission reasons- manufacturers are still having a hard time getting diesels that are 50 state legal
3. historically low fuel prices compared to other parts of the world meant really fuel efficient vehicles were not sought after
4. stigma that diesels are noisy, dirty cars has been around since the 70s
5. no tax reasons to buy smaller displacement cars
And the most important reason of all:
6. Bigger is better mentality.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a high performance car. But there is something wrong with wanting a large displacement vehicle just to have a large displacement vehicle.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:22 PM
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We still may get a real 4cyl engine in the upcoming M version of the 1er. A TT four is one of the proposed engines, but for now that's just a rumor.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:31 PM
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Modern performance diesel engines are a real treat to drive. I'd highly recommend driving one before bad-mouthing them.
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