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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 03-06-2008, 03:43 PM
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How fragile are these?

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Hello everyone! My girl and I just picked up a 96 328i today with 80k on it. Its been in the family for a while and has always been treated very well, and driven very little.

Now the question part. Its a 5MT, and while my girlfriend knows how to drive a MT, it has been a LONG time...10 or so years. I let her drive it around the neighborhood a few times, she does well. She did stall it out twice but other than that seemed to do ok. I get back in and drive it around giving her some tips etc. As I am pulling into the garage the CEL light comes on. I'll take it over to Autozone tomorrow and have them tell me what code its throwing. My question is are these cars to fragile to use for someone who is a little rusty on their MT skills? I think within a week of driving it she will be back on her game. Can the car survive some rough starts? Or should I let the girl use my VW as her practice car?
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:45 PM
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The CEL is probably not related to the stalls.

Lets us know what code it was.
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:48 PM
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Welcome!!!

Congratulations on the purchase

Any MT will eat itself if you start crunching through the gears, but the transmissions are quite hardy in reality

If she missed a gear, did she rev it so it bounced off the redline?

Just crunching the gears a few times at low speed SHOULDN't trigger the CEL unless there is an underlying issue that you have just brought to the forefront.

If all she did was stall it with no crunching, then i doubt an damage has been done, after all, you are just letting the revs drop so the engine cannot keep turning itself over...damn our planet's lack of perpetual motion hehehe

80k is not a massive amount of miles, especially with these M52 engines

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Old 03-06-2008, 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the welcome

It was the getting it going in 1st type stalls, so no gear grinding, just sputtering and jerking. I was hoping the engine/tranny wasnt that fragile that it couldnt handle a couple stalls without throwing a CEL Ill find out tomorrow what it really is and let you all know. Heck for all I know it will be gone when I leave work tonight.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:57 PM
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Also the VW is in the shop getting some work done and I wont get her back for at least a week or more. I know my girlfriend is really excited about her BMW so I didnt want to have to tell her she would have to wait to practice on the VW Though I will be letting her drive the VW when I get it back. The more practice the better...and I get a personal chauffer.
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By no means are the M52 motors fragile, they are rock solid if taken care of properly. The transmission is no weak link either. Honestly, if you think she will get the hang of it in a week, I would let her adapt in the BMW since thats the car she will be driving anyways.

Let us know what the code will turn out to be, we could help you out with that.

Oh, and I almost forgot, WELCOME.
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Just stalling will do no damage buddy, dont worry

It may have been stalling for a reason though, not just cos your other half was letting the revs drop

As mentioned above, let us know the code and we will go from there
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Well the code is the P0455 which states "Evap emmision control system leak (large)". I checked the gas cap...it seems to be on there ok. From reading other boards it looks like it could also be the Vapor Separator tank or the shut off valve. What do you all think?
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:15 PM
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Also one other thing. If I replace the gas cap and that does end up fixing the problem, will the CEL go out on its own or will I have to get it reset?
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I vote that it's the gas cap too. Once the cap is fixed or on well enough the CEL will eventually go out on its own.
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:55 PM
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I am going to grab a gas cap tomorrow from the dealer and see if that solves the problem. If not then Ill take it in and have them look at it on Monday.

Also....here she is...sorry for the poor quality...its a cell phone.

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