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Old 06-28-2008, 11:51 AM
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Either Saintor has beef with Coontie or he works for or knows someone who works for Flow. I mean...HOW could someone agree with what Flow did? Its pathetic that anyone can consider what they did ok. If anyone agrees with the type of demeanor that Flow had that day then that says a good bit about their own character.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:00 PM
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Nice first post ever. Why the moniker BMWBabe? Was FlowShill taken?
Excuse me? I AM a BMW Babe - tall blonde. Hello? And, being a satisfied customer does not render me a "shill."

Now, Mr LA, have you been to NC lately? Do you have any experience with Flow? Or, are you just part of the lame hunting party that requires no evidence for a conviction?
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:03 PM
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If the dealership had a clue. They would use the posts to figure out what they are doing wrong and what the other dealership is doing right.

The Internet is not going away and it puts a lot of power in the consumer's hands.

Badgering a customer makes things worse for them as they are focusing on the symptom and not the problem.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:06 PM
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Unreal... This reminds me of a good ol' wild west style lynching. The villagers have lit their torches and brought the sharp lawn tools out of the shed and have the rope at the ready. Boys boys boys...shame on you!!!! Comparisons to Abu Ghraib...? Suggestions of contacting the local news...? Posting Mr. Flow's information...? Ridiculous!!!!

The majority of you who are running your yap know absolutely NOTHING about Flow BMW - only what this guy "coontie" is telling you. In fact, many of you live nowhere near NC yet you are getting in lock step with the "ruin Flow with bad publicity" crowd. Why? To what end? Do you really know what transpired at the dealership? Do you really care?

Unlike most of you, I am very familiar with Flow BMW. I have purchased TWO cars in the past three years from Flow (a MINI Cooper S and my BMW 328i) and have found their sales process to be nothing short of excellent. I am one of their paying customers who takes advantage of the Saturday carwash and excellent coffee (thank you). As such, I know their general manager, most of their sales people, many of their service people, and a few of their Saturday car wash detail people quite well. And, yes, I have met and spoken with Don Flow. The accusations and venom leveled against the people and this company are undeserved.

One would be hard pressed to find a better BMW operation anywhere. The people in the organization care about the customer and customer satisfaction is tantamount. I have never heard one complaint from anyone and I know many many BMW devotees in this town. I also know people who have purchased vehicles from their other dealerships - Buick and Cadillac - who have been happy Flow customers for years. Thus, I have come to the conclusion that the poster is simply a difficult person who likes making trouble for others and the rest of you aren't using your brains - only chest thumping testosterone.

I have a challenge for you boys. Lest you think I am making it up, check out their track record. Don't just listen to some obscure internet joker gifted with a dramatic writing style making spurious and unproven comments. Learn the facts!!!
You, saintor and the dealer are flat out clueless. This has nothing to do with cootie. Coontie could be a known criminal for all I care. The way the dealership handled this situation is flat out pathetic. They could have chosen the high road, but they didn't. They could have chosen to be professional, but they didn't. They could have tried to turn this into a positive with great PR for the dealership, but they didn't. They chose to take him in a private room and interrogate (question), whatever. It doesn't make any difference.

Do you deny that they took him to a private room and questioned him? That alone is flat out disgusting unless he was acutally doing something criminal against the dealership. It's flat out disgusting that any business would act in this manner against a consumer. Nearly impossible to believe any BMW dealership would act in this manner.

Quite honestly, I didn't find any of coontie's original comments offensive. He was very complimentary of the people and only made reference to the prices in a humorous way. If the dealership doesn't like that then maybe the should start being competitive with normal dealers.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:06 PM
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Is this just another E90post kind of joke?
Why? Did you just come from reading E90post? This is the second time you've mentioned E90post on this thread. If I didn't know better, I'd think you really like it.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:06 PM
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Well, this may be the greatest thread I've read in 2008. I am especially pleased with the people who had to create an account to defend Flow BMW.

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Old 06-28-2008, 12:06 PM
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If the dealership had a clue. They would use the posts to figure out what they are doing wrong and what the other dealership is doing right.

The Internet is not going away and it puts a lot of power in the consumer's hands.

Badgering a customer makes things worse for them as they are focusing on the symptom and not the problem.
You have one person's word against another. Who are you going to believe - the satisfied repeat customer or the man suffering from broomstick trauma!?
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:09 PM
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I AM a BMW Babe - tall blonde. Hello?
How tall? Measurements? Maybe Don Flow & Friends treated you well because of your appearance. (No offense, coontie.)
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:09 PM
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Well, this may be the greatest thread I've read in 2008. I am especially pleased with the people who had to create an account to defend Flow BMW.

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Well, Houston, I'm normally a political forum type gal. I enjoy the rough and tumble of insulting liberals. But, since I'm a real BMW devotee and Flow customer, I thought I would jump in the fray here. I hate to see unfounded lynchings especially when nice people are being hung out to dry by people who are clueless.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:10 PM
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How tall? Measurements? Maybe Don Flow & Friends treated you well because of your appearance. (No offense, coontie.)
No, they treat everyone well. Maybe Mr. Coontie just doesn't play well with others.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:12 PM
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This isn't the first time I've seen a business commit internet suicide and it probably won't be te last. Most businesses have no idea as to how to handle internet issues. I don't think the experience Coontie had while buying his car deserved his offending post. But in no case did Coontie deserve the treatment he received at Flow.

Flow is following the expected pattern. It appears they have enlisted a customer, BMWBabe, to come to their rescue. Now, I'll wager someone from the Flow will chime in an stick his foot deeply into his gullet.

The trick is to keep the ball rolling. This thread is probably cross linked to a few other boards by now and Flow is feeling pretty uncomfortable.

Good.

BTW, I'm a liberal. Being a conservative is insult enough, but I'll leave that for another day.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:13 PM
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No, they treat everyone well. Maybe Mr. Coontie just doesn't play well with others.
So what you're saying is that you "play well"?
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:15 PM
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Do you deny that they took him to a private room and questioned him? That alone is flat out disgusting unless he was acutally doing something criminal against the dealership. It's flat out disgusting that any business would act in this manner against a consumer. Nearly impossible to believe any BMW dealership would act in this manner.
Did you witness this or are you just taking someone's word? As I said, I cannot imagine anyone at that dealership being rude. I've had nothing but good experiences there. I would advise all of you who have showed up for this lynching with no proof, aside from one poster's word, to listen to those who have had a different experience there. I've lived in this town for nearly twenty years and haven't heard of such a story. Remember, things get blown completely out of proportion on the internet and, since people love drama, they go along with the flow (no pun intended).
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:16 PM
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Excuse me? I AM a BMW Babe - tall blonde. Hello? And, being a satisfied customer does not render me a "shill."
You've joined this forum expressly to defend Flow. It's pretty obvious that you either a) work at Flow, or b) were recruited by Flow as a "typical satisfied customer" to counter the relentless (and probably deserved) pounding they're taking here.

My hunch is that it's a combination of a & b and you're dating somebody who works at Flow.

Either way, it seems typical of Flow's ham-handed approach to negative PR.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:16 PM
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So what you're saying is that you "play well"?
Yes, unless you're an Obamaniac. Then, I might have you for supper.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:20 PM
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You've joined this forum expressly to defend Flow. It's pretty obvious that you either a) work at Flow, or b) were recruited by Flow as a "typical satisfied customer" to counter the relentless (and probably deserved) pounding they're taking here.

My hunch is that it's a combination of a & b and you're dating somebody who works at Flow.

Either way, it seems typical of Flow's ham-handed approach to negative PR.
LA, you really need to work on your psychic friends skills. I've been married for years. I read this forum occasionally but never posted because, while I am a devotee, my technical skills are sadly lacking. I don't race either. So, in short, I had nothing to say to you lads. LOL But, when I ran across this crap, I thought I would chime in. Not only am I satisfied with Flow's service, but I'm also happy with Mr. Flow's involvement in the community here. Quite frankly, even though I'm familiar with the rough and tumble of forums (I've been an admin of an international political forum), I can't believe how many of you are ready to lynch a dealership and its employees on the unproven word of just one customer. That's actually pathetic.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:22 PM
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Did you witness this or are you just taking someone's word? As I said, I cannot imagine anyone at that dealership being rude.
I couldn't either.


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I've lived in this town for nearly twenty years and haven't heard of such a story. Remember, things get blown completely out of proportion on the internet and, since people love drama, they go along with the flow (no pun intended).
Look, if you doubt the veracity of my story, all you have to do is reach out to your good friends at Flow and you'll have your confirmation.

Seriously. All you have to do is walk down the hall, lady!
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:23 PM
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Did you witness this or are you just taking someone's word? As I said, I cannot imagine anyone at that dealership being rude. I've had nothing but good experiences there. I would advise all of you who have showed up for this lynching with no proof, aside from one poster's word, to listen to those who have had a different experience there. I've lived in this town for nearly twenty years and haven't heard of such a story. Remember, things get blown completely out of proportion on the internet and, since people love drama, they go along with the flow (no pun intended).
So you deny it then, even though the dealer has already admitted to it??

Where did I say I thought the dealer was rude?? Please, get a clue!!
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:26 PM
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Flow is following the expected pattern.
I've seen this countless times also.

Remember that guy that got screwed when he bought his M3 at invoice on eBay? Same thing happened there. In short time, you had all these people joining the forum and berating him for expecting to receive a car he paid for when it was "obviously" underpriced.

Then there was a guy with a stolen Sidekick device and people on the MB forums who got swindled out of their rims. It's a standard MO. No doubt there will be other "satisfied" customers joining in a short while, all to say how much they love Flow. Of course.

We're all liars. I'm a liar and the other guy who chimed in from NC is a liar and my friend from Kernersville, NC is a liar and the guy from the Rip-Off report is a liar. I mean. OBVIOUSLY.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:29 PM
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I thought I better pop in here and introduce myself after my 0 to 60 on one of your threads. Sorry 'bout that. Some people were leveling some pretty nasty accusations about some of my acquaintances.

I'm a BMW devotee - both MINI and BMW. Not a better car around imo. I've been around BMWs really since they made their debute in the 80s - remember the days when BMW drivers were so rare that they would flash headlights and wave in recognition? **sigh**

While a NC native, I've lived near and far, to include Europe. I am a higher education administrator by profession and enjoy literature, music, the arts, family, and friends.

Anyway, nice to be here!
Allegations made by long-time BF members tend to have more weight than comments from someone who makes 8 posts in one thread in less than an hour. Welcome to the forum.
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:29 PM
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I couldn't either.

Seriously. All you have to do is walk down the hall, lady!
There you go! You've just proven that you have no acquaintance with facts there fellow. I'm in higher education, not a Flow employee.

Basically, coontie, I am a repeat customer - a satisfied customer. From what I have read here, you have a case of sour grapes. Had you taken your complaint to the dealership, it would have been more productive for you than smearing the dealership on an internet forum.
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Watch it! BMWBabe may choose to unleash her rapier wit and, knowing already that she is a 'babe', we will all be similarly impressed with her intellect.

In reality, she is helping to fan the flames. How many views on this thread now?
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Allegations made by long-time BF members tend to have more weight than comments from someone who makes 8 posts in one thread in less than an hour. Welcome to the forum.
Well then, I challenge you to look up the dealership's record. They can stand on their own with regard to customer service and satisfaction. I understand that they have won awards from BMW in that regard.
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...we will all be similarly impressed with her intellect.
As you should be... All worship and genuflecting accepted...
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