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Old 04-21-2009, 08:13 AM
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ZCW Package ???

Ok Ive asked this before and I was corrected "Does the ZCW with ZMP include the headlight washers?" I thought that it did not (CA said so) and a member showed me a pic of a finished ZMP with ZCW that showed the 2 little rectangles on the front bumper where the washers come out of. I wonder if it could be possible that the washer system in a ZMP is inop? I say this because when adding ZCW in a 335 e93 with ZMP the cost of the ZCW package goes from 900 to 750, could someone please explain why this is.

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Old 04-21-2009, 08:33 AM
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The headlight washers come on the car automatically if you order an x-drive, regardless of cold weather package. My '09 335 x-drive M-Sport has the washers, and yes they work. I did not order the cold weather package, but instead ordered the folding rear seats and heated front seats separately since it came out $25 cheaper that way. (Don't ask me why.) I don't know if the headlight washers are available with ZMP on a non x-drive, but I can say that it has nothing to do with the aero kit or the ZMP bumper.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:51 AM
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Thanks, so if the xDrive has them I don't see why a non xDrive could'nt have them, still there is that price difference ? 900 to 750.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:46 AM
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The headlamp washers must be able to work on a ZMP due to European regulations. Vehicles with xenons MUST have headlamp washers to prevent glare, so there's no reason why the M sportpaket would affect the operation of the washers since you can obviously order xenons with ZMP.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:23 PM
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The headlamp washers must be able to work on a ZMP due to European regulations. Vehicles with xenons MUST have headlamp washers to prevent glare, so there's no reason why the M sportpaket would affect the operation of the washers since you can obviously order xenons with ZMP.
Correct. The washers are there and do work.

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Ok Ive asked this before and I was corrected "Does the ZCW with ZMP include the headlight washers?" I thought that it did not (CA said so) and a member showed me a pic of a finished ZMP with ZCW that showed the 2 little rectangles on the front bumper where the washers come out of. I wonder if it could be possible that the washer system in a ZMP is inop? I say this because when adding ZCW in a 335 e93 with ZMP the cost of the ZCW package goes from 900 to 750, could someone please explain why this is.

Note: CA has a call into corp. but has not heard back yet.
The price goes down because the ZCW with ZMP eliminates the heated steering wheel, which lists for......you guessed it, $150.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:37 PM
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The price goes down because the ZCW with ZMP eliminates the heated steering wheel, which lists for......you guessed it, $150.
Ah, you guys are killing me. NOW I realize I could have skipped the ZCW package and just ordered the heated seats and wheel. I don't need the flinking ski bag, and could have saved $100 (and maybe another $150 for the wheel, which I think isn't that useful but my wife thinks is perfect).

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Old 04-21-2009, 05:53 PM
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Ah, you guys are killing me. NOW I realize I could have skipped the ZCW package and just ordered the heated seats and wheel. I don't need the flinking ski bag, and could have saved $100 (and maybe another $150 for the wheel, which I think isn't that useful but my wife thinks is perfect).

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Don't feel too bad. It's a little unclear right now whether BMW has recently made the heated steering wheel a stand alone option on the E9x or whether it must come with the ZCW. It is listed on the website as if it is a stand alone option, but I think when it comes down to actually ordering they have to be together. Besides, you got folding rear seats, which is a useful thing to have.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:45 AM
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Besides, you got folding rear seats, which is a useful thing to have.
Oh, no question, but they're standard on the coupe with or without ZCW. And I think you're right - I don't recall ever seeing the heated wheel as a breakout item before the latest website upgrade.

Regarding the seats, there were only 2 absolute "will not give up" items when I started my car search this year - folding rear seats and AWD. Lots of cars out there with AWD. Amazing how many don't come with folding rear seats.
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:41 AM
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I wanted to try the heated steering wheel since I'll have an e93 but alas I cannot because of the steptronic, which BTW automatically adds the 100$ steering wheel with paddle shifters when ordering the ZMP. I wonder why they can't/won't add heat to this wheel. Thanks for replies.
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I wanted to try the heated steering wheel since I'll have an e93 but alas I cannot because of the steptronic, which BTW automatically adds the 100$ steering wheel with paddle shifters when ordering the ZMP. I wonder why they can't/won't add heat to this wheel. Thanks for replies.
It's not the steptronic. It's the steering wheel itself. The M Sport steering wheel they use with the ZMP just isn't designed as a heated wheel.
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The headlight washers come on the car automatically if you order an x-drive, regardless of cold weather package. My '09 335 x-drive M-Sport has the washers, and yes they work. I did not order the cold weather package, but instead ordered the folding rear seats and heated front seats separately since it came out $25 cheaper that way. (Don't ask me why.) I don't know if the headlight washers are available with ZMP on a non x-drive, but I can say that it has nothing to do with the aero kit or the ZMP bumper.
Did you post any photos of your car on the ED forum? I couldn't find a thread. You did meet the 12 hour rule didn't you?
I pick mine up in about a week adn wanted to look at some photos.
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