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Old 06-24-2009, 10:42 AM
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I probably would have bought a Z4MC with the E90 V8. Not the folding roof car though.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:56 AM
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If the past has anything to say then about 3 years down the road a new MZ4 will show up with a version of the M3's V8...priced somewhere in the 60k range to start. There's been plenty of talk about it already having enough room under the hood for the 8 to fit and I'm sure BMW designed it that way just in case they change their minds.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:13 PM
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My understanding is that BMW may release a M package that will consist of the badging and an ECU upgrade.
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:25 PM
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I've heard that rumor as well: an M-Sport Package Z4 with 335+ HP. Be interesting to see if BMW will create an Aero Package for the new Z if the rumor is true.

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My understanding is that BMW may release a M package that will consist of the badging and an ECU upgrade.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:16 PM
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No Z4M but we are going to be treated to an X5M and X6M, what is wrong with this picture.
I would love to know who came up with that brain child Hmm.....
I agree. I think I need a new favorite car company. This new Z4 is warmed over turd.
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:46 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't a new Z4M (with a V8) potentially cannibalize the 6 series market (or viceversa). I mean both are essentially 2 seaters (6 series obviously has a useable rear seat) but I think a lot of people would seriously consider a Z4M with NA V8 loaded for 60-65k before shelling out 70+ for a 650i or 6 drive50i. That I think would be true especially in this market. Sure there would be people who would get the 650i or 6 drive50i because that's what they want, but the majority of "on the fence buyers" would probably opt for the M car + being cheaper. The way I see it the current lineup minus the M makes sense from BMW's financial standpoint in the same way the Cayman was deliberately engineered to be the halfway point between the boxster and the 911, although the enthusiast in me would love to see another Z4M (especially if they have deals on it like the outgoing Z4M).
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:06 PM
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An M with a V8 wouldn't compete with a 6 series. When was the last time you saw a guy with a 6 take it to the track? I saw an M5 once at the track and the shear weight of the car did it in. A 6 buyer wants straight line speed with all the techno goodies and a luxo ride.

A Z4M with a V8 is what BMW needs. The M3 is awesome, but just to big for a real sports car. A Z4M with a V8 would lure all kinds of new buyers to BMW so long as BMW lets the car outpace the M3. Give it the right gearing and suspension and don't dumb it down engine management. Hell, give it a sequential tranny too.

With this car the Z4 would finally take the pole on the Cayman S, TTS, Corvette, 370Z and many others.

The idea in making cars is to steal other automakers marketshare. A v8 Z4M would do that. Just imagine the sound coming out of that littel car. It would be awesome.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:12 PM
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The new Z4 M is a no go for now. During the first screening of the new Z4 I spoke to the guy in charge of the Z4 production and had a discussion on the Z4M. I told him that that car is one of the best two door Euro's that you can get and it sucks that they are not making it. I don't remember exactly what reason he gave me but it deals with demand primarily.
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The V8 is dead. BMW is doing twin-turbo V6 and... inline-3 engines (yes, a direct-injection 1.5-liter Inline-3 is rumored).

Chip the existing twin-turbo 3.0-liter, upgrade the suspension, brakes, wheels.... and you have a killer Z4.

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Problem I see with the new Z4 M (if it comes to fruition) is the price. The i35 is already sticker'ing at $60+ and dangerously treading in the Porsche territory.

This is the same reason why previous Z4 M models have faltered. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see an expansion of the ///M line, but BMW is in a unique niche.

BMW is a sports/luxury car whereas Merc is a Luxury car that has AMG lines of cars. So Merc can get away with asking an arm and a leg for the SLK AMG. As such, BMW's niche market is similar to Porsche's and both companies vie more or less for the same demographic when it comes to the Z4 or Boxster. Both cars are superior and have their unique and ideosyncratic characteristics (I will admit that the Porsche out preforms the Z4).

Hence, long story short, I can see why BMW may not be brining the Z4 M back. But I do think they will... perhaps in limited numbers, for those true BMW fans.
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:33 PM
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(I will admit that the Porsche out preforms the Z4).
Which porsche and which Z4?
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:44 PM
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Problem I see with the new Z4 M (if it comes to fruition) is the price. The i35 is already sticker'ing at $60+ and dangerously treading in the Porsche territory.

This is the same reason why previous Z4 M models have faltered. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see and expansion of the ///M line, but BMW is in a unique niche.

BMW is a sports/luxury car whereas Merc is a Luxury car that has AMG lines of cars. So Merc can get away with asking an arm and a leg for the SLK AMG. As such, BMW's niche market is similar to Porsche's and both companies vie more or less for the same demographic when it comes to the Z4 or Boxster. Both cars are superior and have their unique and ideosyncratic characteristics (I will admit that the Porsche out preforms the Z4).

Hence, long story short, I can see why BMW may not be brining the Z4 M back. But I do think they will... perhaps in limited numbers, for those true BMW fans.
I tend to agree. The current Z4, if made into an M model, will never achieve the "greatness" of its predecessor(s). The new package is too heavy, and too expensive. The new Z4 was a deliberate attempt by BMW to move the car upscale -- and they did a great job with that in mind.

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Chip the existing twin-turbo 3.0-liter, upgrade the suspension, brakes, wheels.... and you have a killer Z4.
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The V8 is dead. BMW is doing twin-turbo V6 . . .
I hope the venerable inline 6's are not being phased out. I know you can build killer "V" configuration engines, but I love the in-line 6's in the Z4's. The world has forgotten what the words "sports car" originally meant.

Below are my first true loves (yes I'm dating myself). They may not have been terribly fast or quick, or handle super sharp by today's standards. But they are true sports cars in every sense; light, basic and fun to drive.
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I hope the venerable inline 6's are not being phased out. I know you can build killer "V" configuration engines, but I love the in-line 6's in the Z4's. The world has forgotten what the words "sports car" originally meant.

Below are my first true loves (yes I'm dating myself). They may not have been terribly fast or quick, or handle super sharp by today's standards. But they are true sports cars in every sense; light, basic and fun to drive.
Whoa! That was my TYPO! I meant inline-6!

I would probably leave BMW if they dropped their inline-6. I have that engine in both of my BMWs!

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Old 08-25-2009, 09:19 PM
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Whoa! That was my TYPO! I meant inline-6!

I would probably leave BMW if they dropped their inline-6. I have that engine in both of my BMWs!

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Thanks for the clarification.
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Which porsche and which Z4?
Boxster vs. Z4 i30
Boxster S vs. Z4 i35

Different cars, different advantages, but overall engineering and racing heritages... However, there are distinct advantages that the Boxster enjoys which seems to be lacking the the Z's.
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