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Old 10-30-2009, 06:00 AM
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saw these pics over at AutoBild. Cant read the article. Pictures show the size comparisons for those who are thinking about the next X. From the noset-to-nose shot it looks to me like the X1 is very much of the Infiniti EX35 mold -- kind of a glorified sporty wagon that is only slightly raised to give it the look of an SUV. Personally like what I`ve seen of the next X3 better.
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:43 AM
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Actually, I like the new X1. Since I am looking seriously at a 3 series wagon or an A4 Avant as my next ride, in Spring 2011, the X1 could be a contender, if it is available then. I am seeking a slightly smaller, most importantly lower roof height, to ease my loading bikes and kayaks up on the roof.

Any idea of when the X1 will be available? Is it going to be made in US or Austria?
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:50 AM
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I only hope one can get a European Delivery for the X1 since it will be produced in Austria(?), not South Carolina like the X3. If not, it looks like the end on BMW's for me.

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Old 10-30-2009, 07:21 AM
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I knew I have seen this look before... but fortunately Pontiac stopped making these in 2006. And they will stop making Pontiacs all together in 2010.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:12 AM
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:23 AM
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I like the X1 a LOT. Perfect size for my family and if it can tow 3500lbs, that might be my next car!!
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:09 AM
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It seems that with a lower center of gravity it may add to the handling.

A nice way to get the best of both worlds without going to a sedan or station wagon.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:17 AM
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:54 AM
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I dunno. There's something about that constipated look the X1 has...not for me.
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Crap, the article costs 1,00 to download, even if I don't have the language barrier!

The X1 is currently manufactured in Leipzig, Germany and is on sale now in Europe. If you fly over, you'll be able to see them at showrooms, and folks are taking delivery thesedays.

It will not be entering the US market until 2011, and BMW doesn't anticipate it being a big seller here. Hence, only the top-level 6 cylinder petrol will be offered as the xDrive28i with about 258bhp and a 6-speed automatic.

I wouldn't mind an X1 but the model I want, an sDrive20d, is not offered in the US.

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:31 PM
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I am seeking a slightly smaller, most importantly lower roof height, to ease my loading bikes and kayaks up on the roof.
Bike loading is also important to me -- one big attraction of the X3 for me was the interior bike rack. Looks unlikely that the X1 can accommodate a bike inside in an upright position.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:20 PM
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I've got that magazine. The X1 ranked 1st followed by the Tiguan, the A3 and then the X3.

Some facts you may find interesting: the X1 is lighter, thriftier by about 10%, slightly faster, slightly louder (as if we needed that), slightly less storage space, and produces less co2 per mile when compared with the X3 and the exact same powertrain.
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I've got that magazine. The X1 ranked 1st followed by the Tiguan, the A3 and then the X3.

Some facts you may find interesting: the X1 is lighter, thriftier by about 10%, slightly faster, slightly louder (as if we needed that), slightly less storage space, and produces less co2 per mile when compared with the X3 and the exact same powertrain.
I see myself moving to Germany in the future. Driving enjoyment has a higher priority there and it shows.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:05 AM
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I see myself moving to Germany in the future. Driving enjoyment has a higher priority there and it shows.
The Autobahns and the quality roads certainly help.
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Old 11-01-2009, 03:28 AM
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Due in South Africa first Q next year (2010). I'll certainly go and have a closer look at it. Think in general the X1 will be a serious contender for the Q5 locally. On paper the reviews claim great fuel consumption with excellent performance from the twin turbo 2 litre diesel (which will be the biggest engine option on the X1 here) - this outperforms my 3 litre diesel X3 on both accounts!!! And the X1 is good looking too IMO. Ground clearance might count against the X1 for what I would use it for (think its slightly less than the X3's)...
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:23 AM
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I only hope one can get a European Delivery for the X1 since it will be produced in Austria(?), not South Carolina like the X3. If not, it looks like the end on BMW's for me.

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Don't see that being a problem. My 135i was built in Leipzig, and I picked it up in Munich!

And count me as another potential fan of the X1, depending on price and availability of diesel. I haven't seen many pics of the new X3, but it looks a hell of a lot better than the current-gen X3, I think.
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The Autobahns and the quality roads certainly help.
Yeah, although admittedly my state has very good roads, good enough for a stiff 2004 X3 to not be a headache on long trips. Now if we could have more places to overtake.........
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Bike loading is also important to me -- one big attraction of the X3 for me was the interior bike rack. Looks unlikely that the X1 can accommodate a bike inside in an upright position.
For us, oftentimes when we have bikes and/or kayaks loaded, we also have dogs and vacation gear inside, so mounting the bikes inside is not an option. A low roof, with roughly the same interior volume as a current X3, would fit the bill for me.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:35 PM
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If the rear windshield wasn't so sloped, it may have had very identical X3 rear cargo space. The X3 will grow, I imagine it will be slightly smaller then last generation X5, further increasing the cargo area for the X3. Im not sure on the pricing, but the A3 is a failure in the states for its pricing vs cargo/size.
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I like it enough but don't think I can wait for it as I'll need something by November 2010...can't see myself getting an X3 stateside either so it might have to be the new 5er or Q5 if their program is decent
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:18 AM
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I would like to see a nose to nose photo of the X1 and the 328i XDrive Sport Wagon, as well as the stats on interior dimensions and volumes.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:27 PM
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It dosnt look bad...as long as they offer it with a manual gearbox here in the states! Of course this is iffy. The reason why we bought our X3 was because it was offerred with a manual. I know several others who did this as well. If not for that fact, my wife would have gone with something else.
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I haven't been able to find the exact cargo space of the X1, but it seems similar to the 3er touring.
  • Height of cargo space is 964mm in the 3er, 1008mm in the X1 but diminishes to 967mm with the optional mooroof.
  • Width of cargo space is 1455mm in the 3er, 1443mm in the X1
  • The space behind the rear axle is approx. 1010mm in the 3er, 903mm in the X1

Y'all should also go onto the BMW website and download the X1 brochure if at all interested. I like the "athletic" feel of the interior, reminiscent of the earlier X3s.
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