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Old 11-06-2009, 07:28 AM
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What is the reason behind using "F" for series nomenclature?

Anyone know why BMW decided to scrap the "E" in favor of "F" in the model nomenclature?

On the same lines, anyone know how the "E" came to exist? I suppose it all started with the E21, right? Damn, as an owner of one, I should know this.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:42 AM
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This was mentioned in Roundel magazine. I forget what it was, but "E" stands for a German word meaning generation or platform. F stands for nothing more than the letter after E, and E-prefixed platform codes were considered to have "run out" after E9x, hence the next iteration was F01/02.
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I suspect that when BMW was setting up their first ERP system to manage their production network, someone put a limitation on the length of the internal codes used to identify models. This code is probably 3 characters long and is a letter + 2 numbers. When they got up to E99, they had no choice but to go into Fxx since the pain of modifying the system to support E1xx was greater than the "pain" of abandoning the "E" prefix (which supposedly stands for "Entwicklung" or something similar) for a new prefix that doesn't have any historical significance.

Someone way back was probably just shortsighted as to how many different model "studies" would be done and limited the width of that field.

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I heard "E" was "evolution"
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I heard "E" was "evolution"
Or, more likely, the German word that's closest to "evolution," which, according to Google's translator is "Entwicklung."

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Pure speculation on my part, but the new 5 series is completely redesigned from the ground up. Maybe because of the new platform they chose to change the moniker.
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DHoang, actually the first application of the "E" was the E9 platform back in the 60s. There were also an E3 and E6 but you don't really hear of those.

The reason they changed from E to F was simply they got through the 90s. As to why they went to F instead of E100, I really don't know. Avoid confusion with Mercedes models?

PS, I should add, I just read that the "E" does indeed stand for "entwicklung," however that means "development," not "evolution." Google Translate confirms this.
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Pure speculation on my part, but the new 5 series is completely redesigned from the ground up. Maybe because of the new platform they chose to change the moniker.
Please read up on BMW history and learn about all the great E's of the past, most of which were not 5ers
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I just read that the "E" does indeed stand for "entwicklung," however that means "development," not "evolution."
Korrekt. E has always stood for Entwicklung and your translation is correct.


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DHoang, actually the first application of the "E" was the E9 platform back in the 60s.
Quatsch. The first E was an E1 and it didn't make it into production. Neither did the E2 for that matter.

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There were also an E3 and E6 but you don't really hear of those.
You don't hear about a car that was made from 1968 - 1977 (the E3?) not to mention the E9 was a variant of the E3.
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Korrekt. E has always stood for Entwicklung and your translation is correct.
So what does F stand for? Funkyzeit?
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Pure speculation on my part, but the new 5 series is completely redesigned from the ground up. Maybe because of the new platform they chose to change the moniker.
This theory might have made the slightest bit of sense had the first F-monikered platform actually been a 5 series.
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