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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-06-2010, 04:40 PM
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Which car to drive in the snow? 525iT or 328i sedan?

We are supposed to get some significant snow tomorrow. 4-6". My wife drives an '09 volvo S80 with stock continental A/S tires. I'm thinking I should take the wagon with new Bridgestone Blizzaks WS60 tires. I'm parking the 328i sedan with dunlop sp winter sport tires which has done well in light snow/ice and freezing cold temperatures (averaging around 15 degrees here lately).

I'm thinking the snow performance would be
1. 525iT with blizzaks
2. volvo S80 with conti all seasons
3. 328i sedan with dunlop sp winter sports

Thoughts?
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:42 PM
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Need a bit more info to rank the choices between the 525iT and 328i. Either way I would put the Volvo at the bottom of the pile... all seasons = no seasons.

But to rank the BMWs ... need to know if the driving is highway speeds on the highway with relatively clearer road conditions or more stop and go in slushy/icy conditions?

If highway then the 328i's Dunlops wins...
If more icy and heavy snow conditions at slow speeds then the WS60 on the 525iT wins...

My opinion anyway... hope it helps...
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:10 PM
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i would drive the volvo, it's either a fwd, or awd, fwd, will have all the weight over the wheels, and would give better traction, awd, well enough said, now if you just want to play in the snow then drive either bimmer, rwd's are the best for some sliding action.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:19 PM
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For tomorrow I'm looking at pretty heavy snow followed by slush and blowing snow. Some highway and local roads. Both tire sets on the two bmws are new winter tires. I'm thinking the heavier 525iT with bigger tread depth tires will be the best but the FWD S80 shouldn't do too badly either even though it has all seasons (read better than summer tires but worse than snow tires...but the FWD makes up for the RWD).

I'll do a test tomorrow and report back on which car, the wagon or the volvo, does better.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:19 PM
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Sorry... the Volvo isn't a RWD? I wasn't aware... thought at least the S80 would be RWD! But the tires do not to it much justice in the braking department... getting going would be better in a FWD.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:31 PM
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Take the Volvo. So when someone with all-season bumps the car, the BMWs are safe...

Any car with winter tires will be my choice.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:56 AM
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I took the 525 wagon with the winter tires today. I must say it didn't feel great. I was still sliding when braking slowly and definitely felt different than my previous AWD volvos with a/s tires. I did make it in to work safely after an hour on the road.

My wife took my kid to school in her FWD volvo S80 using all seasons, but she's not going to work. I may take hers out for a spin to compare later today.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:09 PM
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I'm about 2 hours north of you but I have Michelin X-Ice-xi2 winter tires and my experience was totally different than yours. No slipping and sliding what soever. In fact, the DSC on ly kicked in twice for a second, and that was once when making a right turn while accelerating (the traction light blipped once...and when pulling off from a standing stop on a side street...again, one blip of the traction light). Other than that...it was totally non-eventful.

If you just purchased your Blizzaks and you don't have much mileage on them...they may not be broken in yet...it usually takes a couple hundred miles to break in a snow tire.
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:09 PM
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If you just purchased your Blizzaks and you don't have much mileage on them...they may not be broken in yet...it usually takes a couple hundred miles to break in a snow tire.
Good point. They probably have about 200-300 miles on them. It may be my driving since I was a bit hesitant driving a RWD car in the snow which I haven't done in a long time. I always felt safe in my swedish cars in the winter. I just need to be careful (which I was). My DSC did go on a few tires in turns. I did plow through some slushy snow and it didn't hesitate. I just noticed a few fishtails that got my heart going that I didn't experience in the volvos.
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...I was a bit hesitant driving a RWD car in the snow which I haven't done in a long time. I always felt safe in my swedish cars in the winter. I just need to be careful (which I was). ... just noticed a few fishtails that got my heart going that I didn't experience in the volvos.
You raise another good point...and that is getting re-accustomed to the reaction of a RWD vehicle in slippery conditions versus a FWD vehicle. There is without a question a difference in the way these two driving set-ups react.
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