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E36 /7 Z3 (1996-2002)
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:01 PM
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Mid cycle oil change, am I wasting money?

I finally have 5,000 miles on the clock and have scheduled a mid cycle oil change, am I wasting money? I recently had the lifters et al replaced and thought this would be a good time for an oil change. Since the Z will become my daily driver, I intend to take better care of it. I am retiring and have to turn in the company car. The freebe will be missed especially at the gas pump, but there are worse things than having to drive a Z4.
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I am with you. 76K on my E46 with M54 oil and filter changed between 5K and 7.5K regularly with OEM 5W-30.
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Every 5K-7K miles is a reasonable increment for peace of mind. Doesn't cost that much if you DIY. In fact, I find it rather fun.
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Every 5K-7K miles is a reasonable increment for peace of mind. Doesn't cost that much if you DIY. In fact, I find it rather fun.
I want to DIY but dang can t find the oil and filter at reasonable prices. Any ideas?

As for the 5000 oil change. For the oil that we are using in these cars now 5000 is way too early. I can see 7500 or even 10000 but 5000 the oil hasnt even had time to brea down at all.

of course you can get an oil diagnostic done that will tell you exactly when you need to get it done.

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I want to DIY but dang can t find the oil and filter at reasonable prices. Any ideas?
I buy my oil from the dealer, and use my BMW CCA club discount.

I get my filters online in bulk, either Mann or Mahle, from 'fest sponsors, e.g. www.oembimmerparts.com.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:25 PM
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I get my S54 oil change kit from Tischer for $88 shipped.

Doesn't look like they have a convenient kit for non-M, but prices look reasonable enough:
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...egoryID=123043
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:13 PM
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I do a 7500 change. I think 15k is too much. I use a Topsider and buy oil from the dealer. Buy filters online. Very simple DIY.

http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Tool-.../dp/B0000AXBO5
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I do a 7500 change. I think 15k is too much. I use a Topsider and buy oil from the dealer. Buy filters online. Very simple DIY.

http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Tool-.../dp/B0000AXBO5
That's a different one. Looks good and metal.
How much does it hold.

I have the plastic one. Only used it once.
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:41 PM
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I finally have 5,000 miles on the clock and have scheduled a mid cycle oil change, am I wasting money? I recently had the lifters et al replaced and thought this would be a good time for an oil change. Since the Z will become my daily driver, I intend to take better care of it. I am retiring and have to turn in the company car. The freebe will be missed especially at the gas pump, but there are worse things than having to drive a Z4.
I change mine at 4500 miles or one year.
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That's a different one. Looks good and metal.
How much does it hold.

I have the plastic one. Only used it once.
Tank is 2 gallons. Just big enough!
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Old 01-16-2010, 03:01 PM
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That's a different one. Looks good and metal.
How much does it hold.

I have the plastic one. Only used it once.
It IS a nice metal can, but don't pump it up and then put your foot on it while you're pumping. Ask me how I know...
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I do it every 3k like clockwork, but I rarely get two changes in per year.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:45 PM
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Still under warranty? Will the dealer do a mid cycle for you for free? I have 25K miles on an 06 and instead of doing the inspection early they did a mid cycle change free of charge.
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Still under warranty? Will the dealer do a mid cycle for you for free? I have 25K miles on an 06 and instead of doing the inspection early they did a mid cycle change free of charge.
Dealers do nothing for free.
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Old 01-16-2010, 08:36 PM
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This is going back a few years, but their maintenance program would only pay for the scheduled oil services and inspections, or in cases of low mileage vehicles, one oil change per year.

To answer the original question, I encourage a mid-cycle oil change. I've seen what the oil filters (and insides of engines!) look like when the indicator is followed with nothing in between.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:56 AM
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Dealers do nothing for free.
Let's just say that the sales price includes all maintenance up to 50K miles or four years from the date of "in service", including annual oil changes if you put less than 15K miles per year on her.

I had two different dealers do annual oil changes for me for no charge.
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Out of curiosity has anyone used lanolin cleaner in their engine before changing out the oil. Just to remove any gunk buildup ?
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FYI,

Oil myths and the 3000 mile myth ..

http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Th...%20Mile%20Myth
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dealer will do a low mileage oil change for you once a year while you are under free maintenance; you do not have to wait until 15k miles.

it is good practice to change the oil once a year no matter the mileage. and if you do more than ~10k, a 5-7.5k mile interval seems like it is a cheap hedge against engine wear.

i like the old school maintenance schedule provided by mike miller. you can email and ask for it at techtalk@roundel.org. this is a great document and gives a very solid maintenance schedule. it is much more than BMW suggests but makes good sense.
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I change mine at 4500 miles or one year.
Ron you simply dont drive it enough if it is taking one year to go 4500 miles. Just too fun to leave in the garage. Guess that is why i bought a regular Z and not an M.

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