New Winter Tires Rental Program

Originally Posted by r0cketman

I will be doing ED in Feb and pretty certain I'm going to need winter tires.

Not sure what your car is, but for February you will need to reserve now to ensure that there will be a set available to you, otherwise you may find them all booked out!

John-
I have a ED in mid-March. Typically when does the 'winter tire' season end, in general?

Thx

Peter Fehl

Originally Posted by petefehl

John-
I have a ED in mid-March. Typically when does the 'winter tire' season end, in general?

Thx

Peter Fehl

Well, the legal requirement to have winter tires fitted whenever driving in wintry conditions is in force till 15th April.

Most of us living in Western Austria and Southern Bavaria though, especially if we plan to drive at higher elevations, will probably not re-mount our Summer tires till the end of April, just in case.

Originally Posted by john lance

Well, the legal requirement to have winter tires fitted whenever driving in wintry conditions is in force till 15th April.

Most of us living in Western Austria and Southern Bavaria though, especially if we plan to drive at higher elevations, will probably not re-mount our Summer tires till the end of April, just in case.

Thanks John- I sent in my reservation form this morning....thanks for such a great service for the ED folks.

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Originally Posted by petefehl

John-
I have a ED in mid-March. Typically when does the 'winter tire' season end, in general?

Thx

Peter Fehl

I'm picking up my E92 on 12 Mar...how about you?

Originally Posted by GaDawg

I'm picking up my E92 on 12 Mar...how about you?

GaDawg.. what are the odds that I travel halfway around the world to run in a Georgia fan.. as an alumni from the better school down the road I have to say, at least you have good taste in cars.

I'm picking up my LeMans Blue E90 on March 15th. I was looking at the calendar and there are 3 of us picking up LeMan's Blue 335's between Friday and Monday. Let's hope they don't get them mixed up on the turn-table.

So what options did you get?

Go Jackets!

Just wanted to post and say how wonderful this service was. I did an ED from 3/3 to 3/12 and hit snow in the alps and around Munich, and was very glad to have the snow tires. Particularly after I dropped off the tires, and then went to drop off the car and had alot of trouble just pulling into the snow covered parking spot at the drop-off.

I'd highly recommend getting the tires to anyone doing an ed in the winter time, its expensive, but defiantly worth it.

Originally Posted by petefehl

GaDawg.. what are the odds that I travel halfway around the world to run in a Georgia fan.. as an alumni from the better school down the road I have to say, at least you have good taste in cars.

I'm picking up my LeMans Blue E90 on March 15th. I was looking at the calendar and there are 3 of us picking up LeMan's Blue 335's between Friday and Monday. Let's hope they don't get them mixed up on the turn-table.

So what options did you get?

Go Jackets!

I grew up a Jackets fan (my Dad's an Alum) and I'm steering my son that way if still wants to be an engineer (we can't touch that). That is pretty funny that we'd "almost" cross paths. I ran into some Iowa folks (my current home) while I was there picking up on 12 Mar...small, small world.

I got an E92, Le mans Blue, black leather, 6MT, iDrive, M-Sport, Premium, Logic 7, iPod adapter, comfort access, heated seats, sat radio,. I had a BLAST driving it around Germany (got her up to 130mph coming out of Garmisch, but only for a short spurt (family on board, winter tires on the corners and break-in period).

How was your trip?

GO DAWGS!

Originally Posted by jaguar36

Just wanted to post and say how wonderful this service was. I did an ED from 3/3 to 3/12 and hit snow in the alps and around Munich, and was very glad to have the snow tires. Particularly after I dropped off the tires, and then went to drop off the car and had alot of trouble just pulling into the snow covered parking spot at the drop-off.

I'd highly recommend getting the tires to anyone doing an ed in the winter time, its expensive, but defiantly worth it.

Just wanted to add what a decent bloke John Lance is!!!
My ED was 3/23, I'd been watching the webcams and seeing the snow everywhere throughout Jan and Feb, I contacted John with my dates and planed route, he told me that although 4/15 is the magical date, I would probably not need the winter tires for my trip (stayed in Germany) but to check back a few days before I left the US...
I checked back the week before and John told me the weather was looking good and I probably didn't need them...but if I got there an did to give him a call...
Excellent customer service and not a rip off merchant...I'd thoroughly recommend John/EDWinters and would definitely use him if picking up in the winter or going high in the spring...

Hey John.
Do you know what kind of tires you'll be getting for F10 550i sport for this winter? Maybe Pirelli winter sport?

Originally Posted by DXK

Hey John.
Do you know what kind of tires you'll be getting for F10 550i sport for this winter? Maybe Pirelli winter sport?

Hi,
I probably wont be getting anything for that vehicle, as no doubt the cost of a set of wheels + tires for it would be in the region of 2,500 €. I would need to be sure that I have rental customers for them first!

Checking with BMW now to aski if they have ED customers likely to be needing them this Winter, then I can get a better picture.

It's about $1700 for a good set here.
Are there any alternatives if you decide not to carry them? Any suggestions where else I can rent them?
I think there is one scenario, although very expensive for me, whereby you would get them specifically for me and I would then buy them and have them shipped here, correct?

Please post here as soon as you make a final decision.

We had an *Excellent* experience with the Germans who run the tire store and John and Annette.
The turnaround time was very quick and they could not have been any nicer. Was great to have this service available- made a winter vacation POSSIBLE!-- and very recommended to anyone.
Also John is spot on with one of his hotel reservations, the Zur Post, and we can recommend the Korbis Restaurant next to it. Very nice hotel in a scenic part of town, on the right side of town when headed to the airport, breakfast included and covered parking!

Hi John, newbie here to pick a 328i sport wagon on Nov24. I wonder if Bavaria laws oblige cars with winter tires, how am I supposed to drive 10-15 miles to your tire depot? My dealer told me that new BMW are mounted with S+M tires, are they conform to local laws?

Thanks!

PS: since back in the states I'd need winter tires, can I buy a set of wheel/tires and leave them on car for ferrying to US?
Jim

What was the weather in {CITY} on {DATE} ?

http://www.wunderground.com/history/...q_statename=NA

Above is for Munich, November 1st, 2010. But clearly you can choose the location and date to suit your itinerary.

If there's no frozen precipitation, you have summer tires, and the temp is >= freezing, you'll most likely be able to travel, carefully, without significant problem. If it gets colder, it'll get dicier. If there's ANY frozen precip, then you're gonna be slip-sliding away, and not just a little. Dangerous and illegal.

Don't believe the drama queens with their stories of performance tires magically transforming from super glue to oiled Teflon simply due to cold, dry pavement. If you're a competent driver, there's little or no difference between performance summer tires and the skinny, no-traction-to-begin-with winter tires on dry pavement around freezing or higher. You won't have SUMMER levels of traction. But you'll still have the same crummy traction you'd have on a dry road using winter tires.

The issue is, if it's near freezing, then how do you know the road is really "dry"? Did fog/dew freeze on it? What if frozen precip falls while you're out? You're definitely taking a chance even if the weather / conditions are passable when you embark.

My question was if this is true, how can one drive from the Welt to tire depot? Indeed if the road conditions is dry & above freezing, do I have option NOT renting the winter tires--even at my own risks (incl. 40euros fine)?

thanks of those in the know to clarify.

jim

To answer the above question, if you rent Winter tires at www.edwintertires.com they can be fitted onto your car at BMW Welt prior to when you take delivery. So, driving to the depot is not a necessity, although is 90 Eur cheaper.

thanks for the tip. one question not answered: is it mandatory to rent winter tires, in winter ED cars are on M&S, can I just drive without the bother? thanks for enlightening me.

Originally Posted by zinp

thanks for the tip. one question not answered: is it mandatory to rent winter tires, in winter ED cars are on M&S, can I just drive without the bother? thanks for enlightening me.

As they're new and have the required minimum tread, yes you can. At your own risk though, no self-respecting Bavarian or Austrian would use them in Winter-time, all swopping over to Winter tires for additional safety. No problem though for you if the conditions are good for the duration of your ED.

thanks, this finally answered my questions. Since I just do a little driving (2 days), if weather permits will drive around if not, then head to winter tires depot (of course 1 week forecast)

I plan to "Roll the dice" for my November 7th delivery.

Either conditions will be sufficient to drive my M3 w/competition pkg on the tires it comes with, or I'll leave it at the Welt. Looking at historical data, it would be rare to experience daytime sub-freezing temps or snow in the first 10 days of November in Munich or anywhere along my tentative route: Munich -> Frankfurt -> Nurburg -> Luxembourg -> Reims -> Paris. I may have to wait a couple hours until the day warms up to get going, but even a dusting of snow overnight shouldn't seriously harm my progress since it'll likely evaporate/melt before I have to get underway.

Like zinp, if it looks bad a week out, I may make snow tire reservations. My hesitation has less to do with money/hassle, than completely screwing up my itinerary, since I'd like to drop off in Paris, after a lap of the 'ring and a stop at a couple Champagne houses.

How are you supposed to retighten the lug nuts? Do you provide a tire iron? I dont think the car comes with one...

Originally Posted by ViperSSD

How are you supposed to retighten the lug nuts? Do you provide a tire iron? I dont think the car comes with one...

That instruction is a legal disclaimer provided by the tire depot. In practice nobody does that, I certainly never have nor do I know anyone who does, and the tire depot tell me it is not necessary but their insurance company requires them to put it into their paperwork. More 21st century beaurocratic nonsense causing confusion in our lives!

Hi John

We are picking up our 2012 750i on 11/29 and will remain in fairly low terrain (Garmisch P is as far South as we will go). This is ED #10 for me and I've made it around okay in November in December in past years - but that was luck. I'll watch the weather, but in the event we'll need winter tires do you have the correct fitment available for this big boat?

Thanks!

Dick