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Old 03-19-2010, 11:33 AM
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ED Itinerary for a Track Junky

I'm expecting to travel early May and would appreciate any suggestions you folks may have regarding my itinerary. I am planning my trip around two days at the Nurburgring Track "The Ring". Unfortunately, the open track days fall on day 5-6.

Day 1: Arrive in Munich in the AM head directly to Welt for the factory tour and delivery @ 3pm. I plan on heading to Salzburg for the night. I want to see the Eagle's Nest and Salzburg Raceway.

Day 2: Salzburg to Fussen.

Day 3: Fussen to Interlacken. I would appreciate any input on this leg of my journey. How is the drive over? Is it too much for a one day trip? I do love driving mountain passes.

Day 4: Interlacken to Nurburgring with maybe a mid point stop over to split the day.

Day 5: The Ring

Day 6: The Ring, leave in the afternoon in the direction of Munich. Any suggestions for a midpoint stop?

Day 7: Open. I thought I could travel thru Frankfurt --> Nurnburg --> Eichstatt. Maybe stay the night.

Day 8: Munich, drop car off in the afternoon.

Day 9: Fly out in the AM.


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Old 03-19-2010, 11:39 AM
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To me the real question on this itinerary - what model of car are you getting? If you're a track junky it had better be an M car imho.
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Old 03-19-2010, 12:04 PM
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To me the real question on this itinerary - what model of car are you getting? If you're a track junky it had better be an M car imho.

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Day 1: Arrive in Munich in the AM head directly to Welt for the factory tour and delivery @ 3pm. I plan on heading to Salzburg for the night. I want to see the Eagle's Nest and Salzburg Raceway.
It doesn´t really sound like you are allowing sufficient time here for delivery (2 hrs) and a tour (2 hrs) before your drive. I´m not sure what time the tours are but it sounds as if you are double booking yourself.


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Day 6: The Ring, leave in the afternoon in the direction of Munich. Any suggestions for a midpoint stop?

Heidelberg.
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I've always wanted to track a car at Nurburgring. However, is it a good idea to track the car 4 days after picking it up? It seems like it will be hardly broken in.
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It doesn´t really sound like you are allowing sufficient time here for delivery (2 hrs) and a tour (2 hrs) before your drive. I´m not sure what time the tours are but it sounds as if you are double booking yourself.



Heidelberg.

I'll be at Welt by 8-9am tour starts at 11am-1:30pm (I was told), then delivery at 3pm. I should be on my way to Salzberg by 600pm.


Thanks for the Heidelberg suggestion.
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I've always wanted to track a car at Nurburgring. However, is it a good idea to track the car 4 days after picking it up? It seems like it will be hardly broken in.

Really depends haw many miles rather than days. Regardless, I am not tracking my M3.
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I've always wanted to track a car at Nurburgring. However, is it a good idea to track the car 4 days after picking it up? It seems like it will be hardly broken in.
I'll be out on the 'Ring, but only after my 1200 miles M service visit. Then why not? It's a racecar after all.
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Day 3: Fussen to Interlacken. I would appreciate any input on this leg of my journey. How is the drive over? Is it too much for a one day trip? I do love driving mountain passes.
Swiss cut through the mountains mostly...so tunnels, lots of looooong tunnels, not passes
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I'm expecting to travel early May and would appreciate any suggestions you folks may have regarding my itinerary....
Day 1: Arrive in Munich in the AM head directly to Welt for the factory tour and delivery @ 3pm. I plan on heading to Salzburg for the night. I want to see the Eagle's Nest and Salzburg Raceway.

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Note the following from the Kehlsteinhaus "official" website:

The Eagles Nest and the Eagles Nest road is closed.

Reopening middle of may.
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Swiss cut through the mountains mostly...so tunnels, lots of looooong tunnels, not passes
I hope to take some of the more scenic routes

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Note the following from the Kehlsteinhaus "official" website:

The Eagles Nest and the Eagles Nest road is closed.

Reopening middle of may.
Thanks for the tip.
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I'll be out on the 'Ring, but only after my 1200 miles M service visit. Then why not? It's a racecar after all.
Sure, if you've passed the 1000 mile mark
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If possible, I'd see if you can fit in Spa-Francorchamps in your itinerary. It's only an hour and a half or so from the 'Ring, and it's definitely another one of the "greats."
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Spa is open to cars on a Baptism day on May 11 I believe.
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Curios as to why you would want to back peddle to Munich. If you really like to drive, why not keep driving to un-explorered territory??

Driving back to Munich just seems a bit silly to me when you can fly out of CDG or FRA.
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Day 4: Interlacken to Nurburgring with maybe a mid point stop over to split the day.
You could stop at the Hockenheimring on the way.
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Interlaken, huh? Check out http://www.hangglidinginterlaken.com/

I have a 3 May delivery and thought this would be a blast, but my traveling companion has no interest. Maybe he can just take pictures!
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Sure, if you've passed the 1000 mile mark

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If possible, I'd see if you can fit in Spa-Francorchamps in your itinerary. It's only an hour and a half or so from the 'Ring, and it's definitely another one of the "greats."
Thank you, I've added it as a destination but I need to figure out time issues. Seems like a quick enough drive.

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Spa is open to cars on a Baptism day on May 11 I believe.
That would work perfectly for me.

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Curios as to why you would want to back peddle to Munich. If you really like to drive, why not keep driving to un-explorered territory??

Driving back to Munich just seems a bit silly to me when you can fly out of CDG or FRA.
I got a terrific deal on my airline tickets that require me to fly to and from Munich. Ideally I would have preferred to fly out of another destination. I had to compromise to keep business class tickets vs coach.

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You could stop at the Hockenheimring on the way.
Thank you, I've never heard of this track but looks like a great destination on the way back from The Ring.

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Interlaken, huh? Check out http://www.hangglidinginterlaken.com/

I have a 3 May delivery and thought this would be a blast, but my traveling companion has no interest. Maybe he can just take pictures!
Great link, thank you.
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Day 2: Salzburg to Fussen.

Day 3: Fussen to Interlacken. I would appreciate any input on this leg of my journey. How is the drive over? Is it too much for a one day trip? I do love driving mountain passes.
You can do a LOT of great passes and roads in between, especially if you drop Fussen from the itinerary.

So your Days 2 and 3 would like more like this:
Salzburg -> Merano (via Jaufen)

(Spend night in Bormio after Stelvio, or Merano before Stelvio)

Merano -> St. Moritz (via Stelvio)
St. Moritz -> Interlaken (there are a few passes you can hit in between, but for some reason Google maps won't let me drag the route on them - consult a good paper map, or maybe viamichelin.com)

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Day 4: Interlacken to Nurburgring with maybe a mid point stop over to split the day.
When coming out of Switzerland, you could take B500 through the Black Forest.

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Day 5: The Ring

Day 6: The Ring, leave in the afternoon in the direction of Munich. Any suggestions for a midpoint stop?
Stuttgart, Porsche Museum. If nothing else, just to see the kind of looks you get when you show up in an M3.


The only problem is that many of the Alpine passes can very well be closed until late May or even beginning of June. Which would restrict you to Autobahn-type of roads (and the B500 through the black forest should be open, it's not that high up).

Are you renting a car at the Ring?
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Spa is open to cars on a Baptism day on May 11 I believe.
As an aside, would you happen to know if Spa is open for track days in late July or early August? Their website didn't seem to list all of the available days.
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Okay... since you must travel roundtrip to Munich, you need to add the fellowing stop if you are indeed a "Track Junkie"




Prices:
It costs 3 Euros to enter.
12 Euros to drive for 15 Minutes on the Track. (this was the price back in 2005, so it may be a bit more now)



Summertime:
Thursdays, from 17:30PM - 20:00PM.

for more info:

http://www.hockenheimring.net/

Other Stuff:
The max. Limit of cars on the Track are 40.

You are not allowed to drive during Snow or Ice. ( no $hit sherlock)

Keep in mind that the Hockenheim Ring is NOT a public road as is the case with Nordschlief. If you are dumb enough to wreck your car, your ED insurance will not cover it. Not a big deal for a track experienced driver

For more Information call 06205 / 950-150 or 06205 / 950-212.

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You can do a LOT of great passes and roads in between, especially if you drop Fussen from the itinerary.

So your Days 2 and 3 would like more like this:
Salzburg -> Merano (via Jaufen)

(Spend night in Bormio after Stelvio, or Merano before Stelvio)

Merano -> St. Moritz (via Stelvio)
St. Moritz -> Interlaken (there are a few passes you can hit in between, but for some reason Google maps won't let me drag the route on them - consult a good paper map, or maybe viamichelin.com)



When coming out of Switzerland, you could take B500 through the Black Forest.



Stuttgart, Porsche Museum. If nothing else, just to see the kind of looks you get when you show up in an M3.


The only problem is that many of the Alpine passes can very well be closed until late May or even beginning of June. Which would restrict you to Autobahn-type of roads (and the B500 through the black forest should be open, it's not that high up).

Are you renting a car at the Ring?

I am renting a car at the Ring and may drive my M depending on the conditions. I am a bit concerned many of the alpine passes may be closed in early May, so I've decided to hit the ones I know will be open. I plan on hitting the Porsche and Merc Museunm on the way back to Munich. Thanks for the info!

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Okay... since you must travel roundtrip to Munich, you need to add the fellowing stop if you are indeed a "Track Junkie"




Prices:
It costs 3 Euros to enter.
12 Euros to drive for 15 Minutes on the Track. (this was the price back in 2005, so it may be a bit more now)



Summertime:
Thursdays, from 17:30PM - 20:00PM.

for more info:

http://www.hockenheimring.net/

Other Stuff:
The max. Limit of cars on the Track are 40.

You are not allowed to drive during Snow or Ice. ( no $hit sherlock)

Keep in mind that the Hockenheim Ring is NOT a public road as is the case with Nordschlief. If you are dumb enough to wreck your car, your ED insurance will not cover it. Not a big deal for a track experienced driver

For more Information call 06205 / 950-150 or 06205 / 950-212.
Good info, thank you.
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