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Old 06-12-2010, 10:37 PM
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I would agree with the other post that the lag off the line is not my favorite thing. I'm used to it and plan for it. I have a street where I need to jump out quickly because of two blind curves with cars going 50 mph. I floor it to get out there. Other than that, it is noisier outside, not at all inside. I do not have a problem with diesel smell or it being messy. I have run into a couple times where at an offramp there won't be diesel at a station, but I go to the next and there will be some. The main exits with food and gas usually always have diesel here in northern CA. I just went away for the weekend to Yosemite and got 25.5 mpg. Very happy with that -- in addition to how stunning Yosemite is!
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:51 PM
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We are trying to decide between a 2011 35d and a premium version 35i. I may be mistaken, but the gas mileage on the new 2011 35i with its new high efficiency 8 speed engine (the same in the new 2011 535i) I do not believe is appreciably different from the 2011 35d, which is a continuation of the 2010 model. Can anyone verify this, or am I off base?
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:09 PM
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We are trying to decide between a 2011 35d and a premium version 35i. I may be mistaken, but the gas mileage on the new 2011 35i with its new high efficiency 8 speed engine (the same in the new 2011 535i) I do not believe is appreciably different from the 2011 35d, which is a continuation of the 2010 model. Can anyone verify this, or am I off base?
Go with diesel. The 3.5i is underpowered, IMHO, so it will not achieve the same economy in real world driving...
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:48 AM
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Go with diesel. The 3.5i is underpowered, IMHO, so it will not achieve the same economy in real world driving...
The 35i isn't really underpowered, it just doesn't have the torque the 35d has. I'll say, the diesel is not for everyone. I love the diesel "growl". If cabin noise is something you want under control, the diesel may not be for you. Over taking other vehicles without going past 3K RPM's is effortless in the 35d.

One big thing about all X5's is that if feels like it doesn't have power steering. I read reviews about turning at low speeds, and brushed it off. It's noticeable. If the purchaser is a female, I'd highly consider getting the active steering option. Is that only available on the 35i? If so, I would definitely push someone toward the 35i as a female driver with the active steering.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:30 AM
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One big thing about all X5's is that if feels like it doesn't have power steering. I read reviews about turning at low speeds, and brushed it off. It's noticeable. If the purchaser is a female, I'd highly consider getting the active steering option. Is that only available on the 35i? If so, I would definitely push someone toward the 35i as a female driver with the active steering.[/QUOTE]

I'm a female and I like the stiff steering. Maybe I just have strong arms.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:15 AM
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No active steering for my wife, she carried me over the threshold.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:23 AM
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No active steering for my wife, she carried me over the threshold.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:00 PM
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One big thing about all X5's is that if feels like it doesn't have power steering. I read reviews about turning at low speeds, and brushed it off. It's noticeable. If the purchaser is a female, I'd highly consider getting the active steering option. Is that only available on the 35i? If so, I would definitely push someone toward the 35i as a female driver with the active steering.
Is this still true? I drove a 2010 30i, and definitely noticed the heavy steering at slower speeds - but drove a 2011 35d (not available with active steering), and it seemed much easier. Have they recalibrated things, or are people at work dosing my coffee with steroids again?
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:14 PM
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Is this still true? I drove a 2010 30i, and definitely noticed the heavy steering at slower speeds - but drove a 2011 35d (not available with active steering), and it seemed much easier. Have they recalibrated things, or are people at work dosing my coffee with steroids again?
It is a known fact that the 35d is easier to steer, looks better, sounds better, feels better, smells better, comes with a retractable cover and much faster then 0428's 35i.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:16 PM
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It is a known fact that the 35d is easier to steer, looks better, sounds better, feels better, smells better, comes with a retractable cover and much faster then 0428's 35i.
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and the 35d comes with more emoticons.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:19 PM
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Is this still true? I drove a 2010 30i, and definitely noticed the heavy steering at slower speeds - but drove a 2011 35d (not available with active steering), and it seemed much easier. Have they recalibrated things, or are people at work dosing my coffee with steroids again?
I was the original posted for the heavier steering. My base point of reference is to a 08 Camryd Hybrid, and not to any other model year E70.

I have the MY2011 35d and it definitely takes more effort to steer than the Camry does, at any speed. I have 20" 214's that are a bit wider on the rear tires, but I doubt that is contributing to the heavier steering. I don't mind it, but I think the soccer mom's with their nicely manicured fingernails might (we have plenty of those in my area).
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:23 PM
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When I took delivery of my 2011 X5 35d, my CA mentioned that BMW changed the steering in the 2011 X5; something about it now being 'electronic' like the new 5. Of course, I was too busy staring at my new vehicle to pay attention or ask any follow-up questions (yes, like a dog with a new bone). Anybody know anything about this?
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:29 PM
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It is a known fact that the 35d is easier to steer, looks better, sounds better, feels better, smells better, comes with a retractable cover and much faster then 0428's 35i.
Lets not forget about the 10 year old tranny!
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:31 PM
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I have 20" 214's that are a bit wider on the rear tires, but I doubt that is contributing to the heavier steering.
What a relief when I see you said "I doubt", cause the steering is controlled by the front wheels and not the back. PHEW!
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:34 PM
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Lets not forget about the 10 year old tranny!
yes, that one, the proven one LOL
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:39 PM
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:45 PM
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What a relief when I see you said "I doubt", cause the steering is controlled by the front wheels and not the back. PHEW!
Well, a wider overall contact area of the vehicle causes more friction between the surfaces, but I'm no physics expert, just some financial guru with some calc-3 from college.

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One big thing about all X5's is that if feels like it doesn't have power steering. I read reviews about turning at low speeds, and brushed it off. It's noticeable. If the purchaser is a female, I'd highly consider getting the active steering option. Is that only available on the 35i? If so, I would definitely push someone toward the 35i as a female driver with the active steering.
I'm a female, and it handles just fine. Yes, it may be harder than a sedan, but I certainly would not steer someone away because of the steering. You get used to it very quickly and it's no big deal. I love my X5, and I'm coming from having had 3 5-series before. It's a nice change. Thought I'd drive a little slower in this, but it's not happening. (Two tickets to show) I'm using the cruise control more now. That helps.
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I guess I under estimated the power of the X5 soccer mommies.

Btw, there is a setting in the iDrive menu options that you can set an alarm when you exceed a certain speed limit. I set it to 85mph and it definitely was helpful a few times this weekend while driving to NJ.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:44 AM
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Most people seem to do a 3,000 mile oil change at their own expense to free any particles during the break in period though.
Guys (& Gals)
You are driving a state of the art modern Diesel engine, designed, and built by Germans!
I know you've all be used to those lazy push rod V8's, and they're great and all that.
But a BMW diesel doesn't need an oil change all that often !
The service book says every 20,000 kms (14,000 miles) BMWs check themselves, they have service indicators for all that stuff.
Save your money, and treat your Lady (or man) to a nice dinner out !

Diesel engines Oil gets black within 250 miles, you can't stop that !
It won't break, honestly
That's why they are offering you free Oil changes. It not going to be that often, they know that.

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Old 06-16-2010, 10:13 AM
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I have run into a couple times where at an offramp there won't be diesel at a station, but I go to the next and there will be some. The main exits with food and gas usually always have diesel here in northern CA.
I have found the same thing. After I ordered my 35d my friends expressed concern about finding diesel when needed. This has not been an issue at all.

I'd say in Washington State diesel is offered at ~70% of gas stations. In addtion, at ~500 miles a tank, how can you miss? I can drive 100-200 miles further than gas burners to seek it out.

Diesel all the way!
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Follow Up Question.

I'm very new to diesel and a little apprehensive about purchasing one.

This US 35d has a 6 speed transmission and the 40d in Germany has an 8 speed, correct?

What are the advantages of an 8 speed vs a 6 speed transmission.

Found the answer in another thread. Sorry.

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When I took delivery of my 2011 X5 35d, my CA mentioned that BMW changed the steering in the 2011 X5; something about it now being 'electronic' like the new 5. Of course, I was too busy staring at my new vehicle to pay attention or ask any follow-up questions (yes, like a dog with a new bone). Anybody know anything about this?
Just took delivery of my 2011x5D last week.....and noticed a difference (or thought I noticed) a difference in steering (it seemed lighter), especially at highway speeds.....vs the 2010 x5d that I had. The 2011 has Michelins, the 2010 had Bridgestones. I ran 35/41psi in the Bridgestones, and that is what is on the Michelins also.......

Going to drop the pressure on the Michelins to maybe 32/35, and see if that makes a difference

Haven't been able to find any info with regard to the quoted post about "electronic" steering similar to the 2011 5 series......

Anyone have any thoughts on the "lighter steering" that I seem to think I have.....or 2 months without a x5, maybe I just forgot how it is supposed to feel.....
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Just took delivery of my 2011x5D last week.....and noticed a difference (or thought I noticed) a difference in steering (it seemed lighter), especially at highway speeds.....vs the 2010 x5d that I had. The 2011 has Michelins, the 2010 had Bridgestones. I ran 35/41psi in the Bridgestones, and that is what is on the Michelins also.......

Going to drop the pressure on the Michelins to maybe 32/35, and see if that makes a difference

Haven't been able to find any info with regard to the quoted post about "electronic" steering similar to the 2011 5 series......

Anyone have any thoughts on the "lighter steering" that I seem to think I have.....or 2 months without a x5, maybe I just forgot how it is supposed to feel.....
I think the OP meant "electric" power steering. Several late & new BMW models now use electric motor to assist the steering (as opposed to using hydraulic pump).

I believe this is part of BMW's "Efficient Dynamics"claim that the electric motor is more efficient because it only needs to run on demand vs hydraulic pump which runs all the time.
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....Can someone summarize the various disadvantages of getting a diesel engine? ...
Other than a certain numerically monickered member cluttering every 35d thread with attempts to convince himself and others that he didn't make a mistake by not buying a 35d -- none

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