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Old 08-22-2010, 03:50 PM
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Is it possible to purchase and install an oil dipstick in the 2011 550i? I'm not 100% sure but I read the manual and there is no reference to an oil dipstick. I've read comments that the V8 engine has one - perhaps the older V8? The new 2011 Audi S4 does not have a dipstick either but it is possible to purchase one and super easy to install i.e., pull the plug off and insert dipstick. Is that also the case with the 2011 550i? It's not a deal breaker and I will still buy the car but it really bothers me to know that I cannot check the oil with a regular old fashioned dipstick.
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Old 08-22-2010, 04:35 PM
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I have owned 2 BMW's without a dip stick. You get use to it and you can always check it with your i-drive. It shows you your oil level.

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Old 08-22-2010, 05:37 PM
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Is it possible to purchase and install an oil dipstick in the 2011 550i? I'm not 100% sure but I read the manual and there is no reference to an oil dipstick. I've read comments that the V8 engine has one - perhaps the older V8? The new 2011 Audi S4 does not have a dipstick either but it is possible to purchase one and super easy to install i.e., pull the plug off and insert dipstick. Is that also the case with the 2011 550i? It's not a deal breaker and I will still buy the car but it really bothers me to know that I cannot check the oil with a regular old fashioned dipstick.

No. It is really stupid, but that's how it is with BMW now. All of us hardcore oldtimers wish for our dipsticks. For the tranny, too. Here's some technical info on how the oil sensor works.
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:41 PM
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All of us hardcore oldtimers wish for our dipsticks.
Dipsticks are so hardcore!!!!

It is annoying though that the sensor takes for everyto tell you if you want to check from a cold start--atleast it did in my 335i.
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No. It is really stupid, but that's how it is with BMW now. All of us hardcore oldtimers wish for our dipsticks. For the tranny, too. Here's some technical info on how the oil sensor works.
I miss the dipstick, too. But, if it's any consolation, we have a Congress full
of them...
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:27 PM
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Why complicate something so straighforward and simple? I agree, just stupid!
Thanks for the information and the PDF file link.
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:44 PM
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I understand fully why they would complicated it this way. It's because 90% of BMW owners would probably never check the dipstick but if it's monitored electronically then you can get a warning if it's low or dirty. What I don't get is why eliminate the dipstick? Redundancy is not always a bad thing.
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When my old 535i had issues with the sensor my dealer had a physical dipstick to check with but when I went to another dealer another time they did not know of such a thing. Not sure if my dealers service guys had made their own or if it's available if you have the right contacts.
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Does the 2006 530I have a dipstick????
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:21 AM
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The dipstick is going the way of the mechanical handbrake. Just learn to accept its absence because I'm pretty sure BMW isn't the only one doing this, and their engineers aren't going to change their minds just because a small handful of owners complain about it.
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I understand fully why they would complicated it this way. It's because 90% of BMW owners would probably never check the dipstick but if it's monitored electronically then you can get a warning if it's low or dirty. What I don't get is why eliminate the dipstick? Redundancy is not always a bad thing.
Agreed. I could really appreciate both systems-for example, being OCD about my car, I would likely check electronically whether the oil is low or not every two days or so, and every time I filled up, I could check it manually.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:16 AM
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My wife says there is a dipstick - he's in the drivers seat.
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The dipstick is going the way of the mechanical handbrake. Just learn to accept its absence because I'm pretty sure BMW isn't the only one doing this, and their engineers aren't going to change their minds just because a small handful of owners complain about it.
true... I would prefer having that over an "electronic" version... but technology marches us forward even when we don't want to go...
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No worries -- it's just like the run-flats. Your car will go 50 miles without oil.
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I have owned 2 BMW's without a dip stick. You get use to it and you can always check it with your i-drive. It shows you your oil level.
yes, but why should we have to, and why does BMW feel that hooking everything up to a computer is a good idea (dipsticks, parking brakes, etc)?

I'll give you another reason: accuracy, or lack thereof. I have an E90 and often change the oil myself on the N52 engine. The book calls for seven quarts of oil for a change including filter. On my first change, that's what I did, but like many others who do their own changes, I was wary of over-filling the crankcase. Well, after the change and warm-up, the I-drive display of my oil level read "full". OK, great. Next change, I decided that I wanted to see the display (actually a little computerized engine depiction showing a green band up to what was called the full line) show me the level when it was not full, so initially I only put in six quarts. Well, the display read "full". Next change, I initially put in five quarts - FULL!! I mentioned this to my dealer at my next service and they claim they checked the sensor and it is OK.
THIS is one of the reasons why we want simple dipsticks back. It is ridiculous that we cannot get accurate readings of oil level. I wonder how many overfills have occurred with DIY changes?
For those saying most won't manually check their oil, so what? If oil level drops whether you have a dipstick or not, you will get a warning light, so give us the dipstick back for those who actually care about their oil and their cars. The others can drive around waiting for some light to come on.
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yes, but why should we have to, and why does BMW feel that hooking everything up to a computer is a good idea (dipsticks, parking brakes, etc)?

I'll give you another reason: accuracy, or lack thereof. I have an E90 and often change the oil myself on the N52 engine. The book calls for seven quarts of oil for a change including filter. On my first change, that's what I did, but like many others who do their own changes, I was wary of over-filling the crankcase. Well, after the change and warm-up, the I-drive display of my oil level read "full". OK, great. Next change, I decided that I wanted to see the display (actually a little computerized engine depiction showing a green band up to what was called the full line) show me the level when it was not full, so initially I only put in six quarts. Well, the display read "full". Next change, I initially put in five quarts - FULL!! I mentioned this to my dealer at my next service and they claim they checked the sensor and it is OK.
THIS is one of the reasons why we want simple dipsticks back. It is ridiculous that we cannot get accurate readings of oil level. I wonder how many overfills have occurred with DIY changes?
For those saying most won't manually check their oil, so what? If oil level drops whether you have a dipstick or not, you will get a warning light, so give us the dipstick back for those who actually care about their oil and their cars. The others can drive around waiting for some light to come on.
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