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Old 08-14-2010, 11:49 PM
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Well guys, after 1 year and 4 months of ownership of my 2003 Z4, I'm out of the game. Too much money dumped into fixing never ending problems. I sold the car on last thursday. I'm not sure that i would feel confident owning a BMW in the future, especially from the stories i've heard from my mechanic(he refuses to own one). I had a real nightmare with my Z4. All problems aside, the car was a blast to drive. I had tons of fun with it and appreciate all of the help you fellow forum members had to offer. Happy driving to all of you!
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:53 AM
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So what did you replace it with?
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:42 PM
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:47 AM
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Sorry you had so many problems, best of luck to you in your next purchase.

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Old 08-16-2010, 04:49 PM
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sorry man, I'd would have thrown in the towel myself, must feel good to start over fresh

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Old 11-08-2010, 05:03 PM
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So what did you replace it with?
I ended up getting a 2007 Honda Civic SI. It's got 197hp stock with a 0-60 of 6.3 seconds. It is comparable to the Z4 in only that one way. I miss the Z4 but am loving my SI for different reasons. I put a Short Ram Air Intake, Lexus HID's, A Subwoofer/Amplifier, DC Sports Race Header running stock exhaust, NST Performance pulleys, and tuned it with Hondata Flashpro. All in All dropped less than $1300 to get all of that done and added another 33 hp bringing it up to where my Z4 was around 225hp.
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Old 11-09-2010, 05:50 AM
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All in All dropped less than $1300 to get all of that done and added another 33 hp bringing it up to where my Z4 was around 225hp.
It's still got less torque than my lawnmower, but I digress. When you're out brough-hamming on the streets, just make sure it's pointed downhill if you take on any street battles, and you'll probably be fine.

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Old 11-09-2010, 06:17 AM
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It's still got less torque than my lawnmower, but I digress. When you're out brough-hamming on the streets, just make sure it's pointed downhill if you take on any street battles, and you'll probably be fine.

We are sure reviving an old one, but I agree. When I first started test driving Z4's I took a 3.0si out for a spin. With 255hp it wasn't much more than my S2000's 237hp considering the extra weight the Z4 carries around but when I got back into my S2K, I thought "what the hell!" where is the power? The torque makes a HUGE difference. You have to drive the snot out of a VTEC to get it to run with the Z4...
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:29 AM
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how come you went with the Civic over an S2000?
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:13 AM
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Yea, why the civic?

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Old 11-09-2010, 11:52 AM
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I went with this Civic SI mostly because i found a GREAT deal on it. It already had a couple of the upgrades i mentioned earlier like the Lexus HIDS and NST Pulleys on the car. Being a 2007 with 55k miles, it should be driven off the lot at around $15,000 or private party for about $13,000-$14,000. I got it for $12,000. Always garage kept, driven on the freeway, running synethic oil, brand new tires 2 weeks before i got it, and still smelt like a new car on the inside.

My impressions on performance and the way the car drove factored in as well. No matter how good of a deal i got, following up the Z4 is hard and i still wanted something fun. I IMMEDIATELY noticed the lack of low-end power. However, it Revs to 8k rpm's before redline and anywhere from 5k up gives great power. With the way the car is geared, 1st gear is the only one that SUCKS to get through and then i stay in I-VTEC through my shifts. As far as cornering goes, NIGHT and DAY. I took a turn like it was my Z4 flying around a corner at 30+mph and the tires locked and i just skid forward. FWD is a little bit of a pain as well, I always had fun with that E-Brake and trying to make the Z4 lose traction enough to drift through a turn(even though that car was planted on the cement)

I like the Z4 better but paying $4500 in maintenance turned me away from that specific car. I couldn't justify an S2000 because it's a ugly and would just remind me what i came out of. I may have a Z4 again when the new body style ones fall into my price range. Who knows? For now, My SI redlines high, has short gears that are fun to play with around town, sounds good, and the mods are cheap. For now i'm content.
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Well it sounds like you got it under control. Best of luck with the new car.

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Old 11-09-2010, 05:46 PM
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:29 AM
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With the way the car is geared, 1st gear is the only one that SUCKS to get through and then i stay in I-VTEC through my shifts.
This sounds good in theory, but it makes you look like a tool driving around like this. Whenever I attempted it in my S2K, I would feel like a high school kid... The engine is quite loud in that rev range. It also isn't practical in today's traffic situations. Now on a freeway on ramp, or an access road, it is quite fun.

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Old 11-10-2010, 06:50 AM
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OP, i had z3m, then i had civic si (2009), now i have z4 3.0si.
the civic si has no chance compared to the BMW.
the honeymoon phase with the civic si was about a month then the car's build quality, overall performance, and handling just hits a wall.
yes, it feels great when you are in v-tec, but that motor sucks up more gasoline than my 3.0si motor. so the same driving style, i was getting 2-4MPG less in the civic than in my z4 3.0si.
and also, it doesnt go anywhere! it makes all the noise, then when you try to overtake someone, it takes forever even if you downshift to vtec powerband.

also, try going above 100mph. that motor hits a wall at about 90-95.
its a nice city car imo, but not for a suburbanite like me.

also, the civic sucked in the rain because of the crappy stock tires, the lame suspension unable to cope and its brakes man, when you have german brakes then you go japanese its like night and day. i did a 360 on the highway and almost crashed (thank god there was no traffic around me nor behind me).

i had that civic brand spanking new for about 8 months and i traded it in @ my loss for the z4 3.0si

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Old 11-10-2010, 08:19 AM
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also, try going above 100mph. that motor hits a wall at about 90-95.
its a nice city car imo, but not for a suburbanite like me.
I've only hit 100 on the Z once, and this was in South Dakota on the interstate.

the Z4 is a nice city car as well
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:37 AM
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I've only hit 100 on the Z once, and this was in South Dakota on the interstate.

the Z4 is a nice city car as well
i dont consider a convertible with no rear 1/4 windows a good city car.
maybe in a smaller city sure, try boston, NYC, philly with cyclists and pedestrians/jaywalkers. and cyclists always ride around your natural blind spot aka your rear 1/4 window area.
yes, the size is a good city car's size, but not practical at all.

the honda vtec si/s2000 models are great cars - dont get me wrong, the gear box shifts like butter, the clutch pedal is soft, the 3 pedal set up is absolutely dead on for heel-toe. but the build, the performance, the nitty gritty stuff, and the everyday capabilities - BMW wins hands down.

there is no way im driving my boss around in a civic with a wing and a stock upgraded exhaust system. its a car for 16-21 year olds. its cool when you are in high school, kids would go wow thats a cool car. the second you get out of college, you think wow thats so stupid!

to live with everyday, i'd rather have a stick z4 than a civic si. i'll suck it up for the small trunk, no rear seats, higher insurance. but in the end, im driving a bmw (well respected brand by everyone), with leather seats, stock brakes that actually stop, stock suspension that actually handle , and a motor that pulls it to 100+ with ease.

also, the civic's paint really sucks. i put on 3 layers of dodo juice when i drove it home brand new, and it didnt even shine up! and its really soft so it scratches easy.
another thing is that civic is going to be really dull. no one is going to be like wow, cool car unless you are hanging out with rice boys.
i drive a z4 with imola red m sport seats and interior and i get an never ending amounts of compliments on it.

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I'd have gone s2000 instead of a wrong-wheel-drive hatchback.

Oh well, looks like less work my 'ignore' filter will have to do.
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