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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 12-13-2010, 12:57 AM
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2011 X3 US model fuel economy numbers?

Is this available yet? Can't find official numbers anywhere.
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:09 PM
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:28 AM
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Just heard unofficial report
17/city, 24/highway. a bit disappointed...
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:45 AM
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17/city, 24/highway. a bit disappointed...
Where did you see that? The BMW website says 19/26 for the 35i version and I can't imagine the 28i wouldn't be better.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:37 AM
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BMW Of Bellevue has a 2011 x3 35i in stock. The window sticker confirms the 19/26 epa rating. The 28i has lower gears and no direct injection=?
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:49 PM
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That would be a major disappointment if true. Maybe that's why there's been a delay.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:03 PM
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I looked at a 2011 x3 28i at Kuni BMW today. It had just been dropped off the truck. Window sticker epa=19/25. BMW should offer the x3 with a diesel, I was extremely impressed with my 335d. With proper gearing an X3 35d would be good for 30 or so combined mpg...20d 35 or so mpg. My best guess.
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I looked at a 2011 x3 28i at Kuni BMW today. It had just been dropped off the truck. Window sticker epa=19/25. BMW should offer the x3 with a diesel, I was extremely impressed with my 335d. With proper gearing an X3 35d would be good for 30 or so combined mpg...20d 35 or so mpg. My best guess.
That's crazy! The 35i get better mileage so unless you're shopping only based on cost there is no reason to get the 28i.

This also makes the Audi Q5 much more attractive.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:30 PM
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That's crazy! The 35i get better mileage so unless you're shopping only based on cost there is no reason to get the 28i.

This also makes the Audi Q5 much more attractive.
Because of 1mpg city and 40HP less?
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:55 PM
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That's crazy! The 35i get better mileage so unless you're shopping only based on cost there is no reason to get the 28i.

This also makes the Audi Q5 much more attractive.
If my calculations are correct the 35i should be running at 1650 rpm at 60 mph, the 28i at 1850 rpm, hence lower hwy mpg.

I think BMW went with the 3.73 gears in the 28i for sub 7 sec 0-60 time. The 35i with 3.39 gears AND taller tires is rated at 0-60 in 5.5 sec....faster than most of the old muscle cars

Of course all of this is on paper. It will be very interesting to see real world numbers.

The Q5 looks better on paper anyway, more options lower price. If they offer it with a diesel I will take a look. I think the X3 looks much better though...to me the Q5 looks like the design team were on estrogen pills.The x3 I saw looked bad donkey.
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:00 PM
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Yes, totally bizarre the 35i gets better mileage, has to be one of the few times where a non-diesel or hybrid step up model is more efficient. I kept asking the sales guy if it was a mis-print yesterday

I am just wondering if a 35i is capable of being driven to actually obtain that mileage or is the engine so killer you are always going to want to mash it

As I mentioned in another thread, after driving both the Q5 2.0T and then the X3 28i, the Q5 feels much better out of the blocks....like no contest, even though the 28i is faster 0-60 on paper.
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As I mentioned in another thread, after driving both the Q5 2.0T and then the X3 28i, the Q5 feels much better out of the blocks....like no contest, even though the 28i is faster 0-60 on paper.
I noticed that with my '06 GTI vs. my E90 328. The paper says the 328 is faster but the 2.0 GTI FELT faster.
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Although competitive, 19/25 is disappointing considering that;

the same powertrain (N52 not fuel injected and 8-sp) in the 528i (similar weight) gets an impressive 22/32
the 535i Xdrive gets only 1mpg worse than a 535i
a 276HP AWD 6-sp. Hyundai Santa Fe gets 20/26 - and runs on regular!

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Old 12-21-2010, 09:59 PM
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The X3 2.8i mpg is quite disappointing. I would have thought that the mpg is at least better than the X3 3.5i, at least that is how it is when you compare the F10 528i and 535i. I think Q5 2.0T maybe a better choice than the X3 2.8i.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:46 AM
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I was thinking of buying the 28i to ease the guilt of driving an M3. I'm also disappointed that it gets worse mileage than the 35i, and it's not about the money - it's the "green" thing. My '07 3.0si was plenty quick. There was no reason to gear the new 28i so it's faster. BMWs used to appeal to drivers that admired both the driving experience and the superior efficiency. Are they losing their way?

I'm hoping they bring a diesel very soon, or change the gearing in the 28i so it's more efficient.
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:36 AM
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2011 x3 28i models are sitting on dealer lots with the 19/25 mpg window stickers. As of this posting the bmwusa sight lists these figures as tbd yet lists the figures for the 35i.

They should have offered a diesel out of the gate, no diesel no deal.
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Yeah, the results are similar on the EU-test cycle as well, with the xDrive28i consuming more fuel combined and on the urban cycle, and also emitting a bit more COČ.

Diesel X3s are a nice idea, but even on this enthusiast forum, my poll shows that the petrol drivetrains are preferred more than 2:1.

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the 28i is on the market only because its cheaper than the 35i,,,money is an issue in this economy haha BULL**** they call it a crisis but the ****ing mall is full of people.
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the 28i is on the market only because its cheaper than the 35i,,,money is an issue in this economy haha BULL**** they call it a crisis but the ****ing mall is full of people.
Don't make generalisations based on your urban areas. Most parts of VA and NC face unemployment rates 11-12%, up to nearly 20% in some parts of the state. Frugality is still the order of the day here.

Heck, I'm still looking for a job.
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Don't make generalisations based on your urban areas. Most parts of VA and NC face unemployment rates 11-12%, up to nearly 20% in some parts of the state. Frugality is still the order of the day here.

Heck, I'm still looking for a job.
woops i apologize but my point was that the only reason the 28i is offered is because its cheaper
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:10 PM
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For the unfortunate 10 to 12% of the US population who are without jobs, the $4300 difference between a 28i and a 35i is probably a non issue. If you don't have a job it's extremely unlikely that you will be considering either. Likewise, even with gasoline heading well North of $3.00 per gal. and Diesel fuel even higher, unless you drive significantly more then the US average (which is still around 15K miles/year) the savings of running a Diesel does not offset the higher initial cost until you've had the vehicle 5 or 6 years. Although, it's not as bad as the current situation with true hybrids, some of which never reach a financial "break-even" unless they are held for 15 or 20 years, even with hefty government subsidies.

For the 88% of the US population (who are still working), the 28i vs. 35i choice probably has more to do with wanting or not wanting the many added equipment features that are included with the 35i and the preference for the added power of the turbo engine. As expensive as fuel is, when you consider the initial cost of a new vehicle, depreciation, insurance and maintenance, minor fuel consumption differences are not of major significance.

As oil resources dwindle and all fuel becomes more costly, Diesels will become a viable choice in the USA, but today they still are not being asked for by the typical American new car buyer.
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