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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:00 PM
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6 speed manual in X3?

My wife currently drives an e83 X3 with a 6 speed. She does not want to give the 6-speed up. So when it is time to replace ours (its a 2004) my options will be:

1) shop other makes as it will no longer matter, as BMW dropped it from the US model no one will have a 6 speed anymore

2) or wait for an out of warranty used one and convert the damn thing to a 6 speed, they offer it with a 6 speed in Europe so I should be able to source the parts. I'll pay whatever I have to to make the wife happy of course

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Old 01-14-2011, 02:36 PM
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Agreed

Agreed. There are very few options out there for a manual, all-wheel drive SUV or even wagon. The Mini Countryman is one option, but it's very small. The X1 is still an unknown, as BMW has not announced drivetrain options in the US. The Audi Q5 is automatic only, but there are rumors of a Q3 (like the Tiguan?). The VW Tiguan is an option, but manual only comes with front-wheel drive. It's all very dispiriting. I'm holding onto my 2006 X3 3.0i (manual, m-sport, premium, xenons) for as long as possible. Fortunately, I only have 28K miles on it.

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Old 01-14-2011, 05:15 PM
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Your best bet is to hold onto the X3 you have now.

There are very few alternatives. The VW Tiguan has an MT in base form, and the base Porsche Cayenne might have one (I'm not sure). The market for MT in an SUV is so small thesedays- they're relegated to the low-end, smaller engined models bound for Europe (only the 4-cyl diesel gets the MT option).

Or just sneak into the FTZ at the Greer factory and steal an xDrive20d bound for Europe.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:13 PM
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The Cayenne V6 comes standard with a 6 speed manual. Several of the Korean and Japanese SUVs have manuals as well. Most will be found in either the entry level stuff like the Subie Forester, and base Outback. When the Porsche Cajun comes on line a stick will be offered there I'll bet. If you really have to have a stick X3 then why not get a '10, then you would get the latest and probably last version to have the manual transmission. Hang on to that as a "classic".

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After hearing about and reading a Bild mountain test where they compared 12 vehicles on their snow abilities, perhaps the 6MT may not be the best choice. The X3 scored 10th place and was criticised for its MT being difficult to get the vehicle moving in deep snow- 1st gear is too long to easily get moving in the snow. The editors recommended the 8AT.

All vehicles in the test were equipped with snow tires. I'll post a seperate thread later.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:56 AM
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The automatic transmissions have vastly improved since the old "slush box" days. I have even read reports of better times with the auto transmission than with the m/t through the 0-60/quarter mile tests. That coupled with a shocking number of people who CANNOT even DRIVE a stick make cars with m/t languish on dealer lots eating up their floor plan money. It is no wonder they are being phased out.
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After hearing about and reading a Bild mountain test where they compared 12 vehicles on their snow abilities, perhaps the 6MT may not be the best choice. The X3 scored 10th place and was criticised for its MT being difficult to get the vehicle moving in deep snow- 1st gear is too long to easily get moving in the snow. The editors recommended the 8AT. ...
Not piling on the 'We must have a manual' heap, but on our 5 spd X5, with that stump puller 1st gear, effective 2nd/3rd gear starts on steep snow covered inclines, became 2nd nature...
and that is on our low tech non-XDrive '01 X5.

It's the Biff & Buffy Brigade inside the BMW committee meetings these days, imo.
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Old 01-17-2011, 06:15 AM
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solution is to get an 09 or '10 slightly used or never titles 6 speed. They are out there. Use ebay and dealer searches and you'll find one.

I dont buy the comparo. Having a 6MT is a great advantage in the snow. Just start in 2nd gear if you need less torque.
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Porsche Cajun is your only hope. The rest of SUVs with manual are 4 cyl. strippers. 2010 X3 is also not a bad idea.
Comparos are nonsese... people drive manuals these days not because they are "better" than automatics, but because they like it.
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Right on 55, but sadly there are fewer and fewer each year that "like it". Thats why the sticks tend to languish on the lots.
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