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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 01-13-2011, 10:43 AM
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X3 35 Throttle Response

Just read the Edmunds.com road test of the F25 X3 35. www.edmunds.com/bmw/x3/2011/road-test.html Sounds like a great vehicle except for the "lazy throttle response" around town. Please tell me this isn't a continuation of the transmission woes from the previous gen X3! Anyone out there who has test driven the new model experience this throttle issue? I'd love to get in line for one of these, but not if it has the dreaded lag problem.
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:56 AM
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Just read the Edmunds.com road test of the F25 X3 35. www.edmunds.com/bmw/x3/2011/road-test.html Sounds like a great vehicle except for the "lazy throttle response" around town. Please tell me this isn't a continuation of the transmission woes from the previous gen X3! Anyone out there who has test driven the new model experience this throttle issue? I'd love to get in line for one of these, but not if it has the dreaded lag problem.
I didn't notice this, and I'm fairly critical. It felt like the typical throttle response for an AWD crossover.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:54 AM
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I thought with the twin turbo on the 3.5 it was supposed to be a "kick in the seat of your pants" rocket sled! If it gets 0-60 in 5.5 that doesn't compute to "lazy throttle" to me. Maybe I am missing something here.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:11 PM
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Since it's a new transmission, I think it's likely something different. There have been similar complaints in the F10 forum about sluggish starts, except in Sport mode.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:18 PM
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It's not really a transmission, rather a throttle calibration issue. Like a LOT of BMWs now, the first 1-2cm of throttle movement yields only a little throttle, so the instinct is for one to push a lot more, at which point the turbos spool up rapidly and the car shoves forward. It's now tuned for good fuel consumption figures, since the laboratory tests often use just light acceleration to measure fuel consumption and emissions. My pop's X5 diesel is like this and it drives me mad.

The problem with the 2007-2008 X3s and some other models is that there's a delay when it comes to downshifting- you slam the throttle while the vehicle is moving, nothing happens for 2 years, and then the gearbox wakes up and changes cogs. This is not the case with the 8-AT; dip the throttle hard and the gearbox will change cogs quickly.

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Old 01-17-2011, 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the info and clarifications. I assumed the new 8 speed transmission would not have the same downshift lag as the previous model. Its just that the Edmunds review was so poorly written, that it was difficult to figure out what exactly they were complaining about when they talked so much about bad "lag". I'm definitely waiting until I can test drive a 35 model for myself....
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:10 PM
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Darrell, I am extremely critical of the "lag" issues created in the GM6 fiasco. They actually did a TA and I now have a 08 MT it was so bad with my X3

That being said, I was really looking for that in my test drive of the new one. I did not see it---- at all. However, the AT lag issue does not rear its ugly head right away. In most cases people say it learns this behavior.

Whatever the reason I am very excited about the new X3, but I will wait until this summer when awd drive type vehicles are less in demand and there is some driver history with the vehicle.

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Old 01-21-2011, 08:13 PM
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Darrell,
I've had my X3 35i for a little over 2 weeks now. I live in an urban area, and don't notice any of the issues around town that edmunds mentioned. As AzNM said, the throttle calibration is a little different and took me a couple days to get used to, but no big deal. The new 8sp transmission is awesome - it has none of the issues that i suffered with in my 08 X3 - it's incredibly smooth and responsive in all modes.
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Old 01-24-2011, 06:30 AM
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eip0016,

Do you have the "Sport Activity Package"? I drove a 35i demo in December which did. In the "Normal" mode the throttle response was slightly delayed, but not in the "Sport" or "Sport+" modes. The most obvious difference, however, was the greatly raised shift points in "Sport+".

Also, if you don't mind...when did you order your car? I'm also in the Chicago area and ordered in mid December. I was told to expect delivery around Feb. 17th. (8 weeks). The BMW NA website still shows "On order" for my production number.
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:48 AM
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I ordered Nov 1st and took delivery on Jan 5th. I don't have sport activity package, just Premium and Cold Weather packages, so can't really comment on what you noticed. Sorry.
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:34 AM
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I ordered Nov 1st and took delivery on Jan 5th. I don't have sport activity package, just Premium and Cold Weather packages, so can't really comment on what you noticed. Sorry.
Thanks. Your delivery in 9-weeks is reassuring. Sounds like the 8-weeks I was quoted is possible.
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