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Old 09-03-2010, 09:30 AM
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Anyone else have problems with GPS

My 535i has the GPS system. It looks great and is easy to use but the guidence has problems. I have a Garmin 880 that's a few years old and it is more sensitive sitting down in a cup holder slot with no external antenna than the BMW unit and it cost a whole lot less. Here in Houston the BMW can not seem to discriminate between being on an I-10 frontage road and being even in the left lane on the freeway. Keeps saying to take the next on ramp after you're already on the freeway. It has totally lost guidence several times at major freeway interchanges; I-10 Eastbound at 610, 290 West transitioning to the Sam Houston tollway South. It wanted me to make a U turn at the top of the flyover from 290 to Sam Houston and seemed to loose guidence completely briefly. Same when traveling on I-10 Eastbound at the 610 interchange on the East side of Houston going straight through on I-10. Not a problem when you know where you are and where your going but I will take the Garmin on an up coming road trip because I don't trust the built in unit.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:03 AM
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+1 Same problems here, and also in Houston!

Funny thing is that my previous BMW (E92 '08) was very good with directions. I don't know what changed, but it was not for the better.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:12 AM
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I've never had built-in navigation in any of my cars. I have a friend who says the BMW system is "not good", not sure what his exact experience is with it. Honestly, I got Navi in my new 535i (still on the ship) for resale -- I know everyone will want it when I'm ready to sell. I think it's still a very high-priced item considering all the cheaper alternatives, but I'm surprised to hear that yours is having basic directional issues.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:34 AM
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Having recently completed a 1000 mile roadtrip into New England I had to depend on the GPS since I was going to some unfamiliar territory. Overall, it worked fine. It was not without its hiccups though. At one point the written directions contradicted the map readout on the HUD. In another instance I was sent around a cloverleaf intersection when a single simple turn was all that was necessary. That being said, between the GPS and a reasonable sense of direction I did not get lost.

Face it, Garmin is the "Gold Standard" (IMHO). As a private pilot used to flying behind dual Garmin instrument certified GPSs your life, literally, is dependent on their accuracy. Try flying a GPS instrument approach with a wonky device! But, for everyday driving I find the BMW nav to be accurate enough and slickly integrated into the rest of the car's technology. Sure, you can get a really excellent portable Garmin for a few hundred bucks but who wants to stick it on your windshield and not have it tied into the rest of the vehicle. I guess it is up to the individual to decide if it is worth the money.

One thing I did notice is that the BMW Assist, using Google Maps, does not always send the directions as it should. It worked sometimes while other times, I went to "Messages" and the directions never made it to the car. I would be interested in comments on that if anyone has experienced it.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:54 PM
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I have not had a problem with the information sent from Google Maps so far.
I do not put my Garmin on the windshield. I have a mount that sits in the cup holder. So the antenna is well down inside the car and it still works better, never looses guidence. Another great thing about the Garmin is that every three or four months I get an email to update the maps so it's always up to date. The last update was 5 gig so it takes awhile, maybe half and hour to download and apply but how often can you even get updates for the BMW maps and what does it cost when you can?
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:36 PM
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Garmin v. BMW

sbron;

Funny I had the same problem you described in Houston last December with my Garmin Nuvi.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:13 PM
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Funny I had the same problem you described in Houston last December with my Garmin Nuvi.
It also depends on the specific Nuvi models. For example, their 7x5 series has a much more sensitive GPS receiver than their 2x5 series. Another thing I like about the Nuvi is the free life time traffic.

BMW navigation with its external antenna is supposed to work tons better than GPS units without one; and there is no excuse for it not to work well.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:19 PM
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and there is no excuse for it not to work well.
If Garmin is the best, and BMW not, isn't that an excuse for it to not work well?
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:45 PM
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If Garmin is the best, and BMW not, isn't that an excuse for it to not work well?


Garmin is the best in terms of routing and software. But reception wise and hardware wise, having an external antenna is a huge advantage, and you can get signal strength order of magnitude greater than 3rd party GPS unit sitting inside the car.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:46 PM
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A little lost to say the least..love the 3d view in NYC but the reroute and function in tunnel incorrect...strays from road which previous 335 and 550 did not...

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Nav system in my new 535sucks! Nuff said.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:41 AM
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Nav system in my new 535sucks! Nuff said.
My quibble is posted in another thread and has to do with the arrow displays.

As for actual guidance, i have used mine all over DC and have yet to have it steer me in an out of the ordinary way.
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:50 AM
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I have to say that the BMW nav is the best I've ever used. I have a portable Garmin and a TomTom device also. My last car was an Audi and I thought the nav was good in that, but the BMW is far superior. The mapping in the BMW is better, the google integration is great and the output to HUD is awesome. From reading the various posts not only in this thread, but on other forums, it seems that the system is no where near as good or as accurate outside Europe. Looks to me like the US mapping data is substandard. Wonder if they changed mapping providers since the E60?
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:03 AM
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I have to say that the BMW nav is the best I've ever used. I have a portable Garmin and a TomTom device also. My last car was an Audi and I thought the nav was good in that, but the BMW is far superior. The mapping in the BMW is better, the google integration is great and the output to HUD is awesome. From reading the various posts not only in this thread, but on other forums, it seems that the system is no where near as good or as accurate outside Europe. Looks to me like the US mapping data is substandard. Wonder if they changed mapping providers since the E60?
Yes I believe you have nailed it.

On delivery in Germany, traveling to France, Switzerland, and a bit of Austria, the nav was dead on even in obscure small towns, shared pedestrian alleys, roundabouts with "non-standard" entry / exits, you name it. Excellent.

Here in the US the current mapping accuracy is a downgrade from what I had in my 01 E38 and 08 E60, the first CD based and the newer DVD (both Navteq).

I can't tell who did the mapping software for the current F10 but it is really inferior in the US and has countless errors and omissions as detailed on several forums.

I do like the Google map email linkability though!
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