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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

View Poll Results: Which X3?
xDrive20d 4 5.80%
xDrive30d 15 21.74%
xDrive28i 11 15.94%
xDrive35i 39 56.52%
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:15 AM
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X3 Model of Choice

If you chose to buy one of the following models and live with it everyday, which of the following X3 models would you buy?

If pricing will make/break a decision, assume the diesels are priced $2k below their respective petrol counterpart.

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Old 10-31-2010, 09:33 AM
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At first I was leaning towards the 28i. Now that I read more, they are getting me excited with the twin turbo engine and sport shifting paddles. Every time I see a fellow X3, I would now I got the best possible available.

There is always a chance that in the future they could drop the price of the 35i and delete the 28i (just like they did with the 2.5...they lowered the price of the 3.0 and then phased it out). If this happens, it would drop the value of the 28i.
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The only fuel economy number I've seen for the F25 is an EPA estimate for the 35i of 26 highway -- which beats the E83 30i by two mpg. No doubt due to that 8-speed.

You've left the 35d off your list. If I remember correctly the 30d and the 35d have very close fuel consumption numbers, so the 35d means more power and automatic only. If BMW were to offer every powertrain choice to US buyers (dream on...) I would have to do some hard thinking about 30d versus 35d. 35d = Diesel rocketship, but automatic only versus 30d = still pretty peppy but manual transmission available.

And I suppose I could even be tempted by a 4 cyl Diesel if the fuel consumption numbers were good enough. All rather theoretical, though... And I factor into my calculation that I own an M3, so am not as tempted as some by the prospect of the 300 hp 35i.
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Lightbulb X3 model choice

I have had 3 X3"s all similarly equipped and all ED. My new one, the 3.5) will be ordered when we can find a dealer who needs a sale, will cost 52K MSRP. This is 3-5 K more than my earlier cars, most of the difference is attributable to the ED discount. I have also price d out a 535IX (ED comming in at 52K and X5 at 54K (base model no leather) The BMW rebate also comes into play with the 5 series being 500 higher than the 3 series. We shall see.
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The only fuel economy number I've seen for the F25 is an EPA estimate for the 35i of 26 highway -- which beats the E83 30i by two mpg. No doubt due to that 8-speed.

You've left the 35d off your list. If I remember correctly the 30d and the 35d have very close fuel consumption numbers, so the 35d means more power and automatic only. If BMW were to offer every powertrain choice to US buyers (dream on...) I would have to do some hard thinking about 30d versus 35d. 35d = Diesel rocketship, but automatic only versus 30d = still pretty peppy but manual transmission available.

And I suppose I could even be tempted by a 4 cyl Diesel if the fuel consumption numbers were good enough. All rather theoretical, though... And I factor into my calculation that I own an M3, so am not as tempted as some by the prospect of the 300 hp 35i.
The 35i also does 19 city. In addition to the 8 speed (which would help all) I think there is something with the engine itself that helps with fuel efficiency and emissions (I was reading). The only thing I don't know is if the 28i also has these features. It wouldn't surprise me if the 28i was slightly worse (you would think a turbo engine would be worse).

They have shared the fuel economy for those European versions but I'm not in the mood to convert km/l etc. to compare...especially if it is not available.

What would be cooler than this diesel is if they could make a car that runs on regular fuel instead of premium. That would save some money and would be just as good as improving fuel economy *to the consumer anyway)
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You left out "none of the above"!
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This poll makes me want to choose the 35i even more. I don't want to be out on the road and every one I see is 35 and mine is 28. lol

If they were smart, they would offer some incentive like the first 100 at each dealership to order gets free heads up display. That heads up display probably cost $200 to put in that they are selling for $1300. Plus when you order, you are more likely to get it fully loaded.
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My frugal Yankee side was originally considering the 28i, but under the mindset of 'no regrets' the 35i is my current choice.

Keep in mind that an intercooler actually promotes better mpg (when not in boost).

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My frugal Yankee side was originally considering the 28i, but under the mindset of 'no regrets' the 35i is my current choice.

Keep in mind that an intercooler actually promotes better mpg (when not in boost).
The price difference comes out to $3300. I'm sure we will waste that much on something else.

I wish we could save some money by removing some features we don't care about like rear manual shades or comfort entry.

They nickel and dime to make money. These options don't cost them much. I believe they used to include keyless start as an expensive option (after my time). In my day they were nickel and diming stuff like rear airbags. It's foolish. Why wouldn't the cargo net be standard.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:14 PM
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This is the best poll. I thought most would buy the 28i. Now I see most will probably buy the 35i. I am over the fence now (for other reasons) but if I were still on the fence, that alone would be enough to push me towards 35i.
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Hmm, good justification for not offering a diesel X3 in the US. And it looks like the turbo-6 petrol continues to be many drivers' engine of choice in a BMW for the NA market regardless of bodystyle.
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Hmm, good justification for not offering a diesel X3 in the US. And it looks like the turbo-6 petrol continues to be many drivers' engine of choice in a BMW for the NA market regardless of bodystyle.
I think I just pick petrol over diesel because I am uncomfortable with diesel. Is diesel offered at every gas station? I get nervous about things like that. I know it has better fuel economy but how is the performance? It's more like I wouldn't jump on the bandwagon if it became more common and I was comfortable.
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I recently sold my 335d after 15 months and 16000 trouble free miles. I believe that the 335d is the best car on the planet. My wife prefers a suv (she drives a honda cr-v) I sold the 335d so I would be in a better position to purchase a BMW diesel sav. The x5 is too big.

I voted for the 20d. I averaged 33 mpg at 16000 mies of mostly mixed driving which included a 1000' climb in elevation every trip back home to the garage. Pure hwy at 60 mph = about 42 mpg!

My guess would be that the x3 20d would return close to the same #s. Smaller engine in a heavier awd vehicle with lower gears.

I would be fine with a 30d too. I hope BMW decides to sell a diesel X3 in the USA in 2011. Also considering the X1 in a diesel as a second choice if and when.
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Bump!

FYI the xDrive30d will use the newer N57 diesel engine.
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Little preemptive as we don't know how the new one's will perform.

Based on the specs, features, and options I can say the 35 would be the only model I would chose.

PS should have thrown in the question on MT just to see what the outcome would be.
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At first I was leaning towards the 28i. Now that I read more, they are getting me excited with the twin turbo engine and sport shifting paddles. Every time I see a fellow X3, I would now I got the best possible available.
Just a little FYI - it's a SINGLE turbo now. Not twin.

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There seems to be sizable support for an xDrive30d based on the unscientific poll of a selected population. Now BMW just has to find a way to certify it. A X3 xDrive30d and 530d, possibly a 330d would be practical applications in the US (unsure about the last one, so close to the 335d).

On my trip to Raleigh, I really missed having a diesel in my X3. The petrol 2.5 was capable but worked too hard (read: got really thirsty) at the upper range of my highway cruising speeds. As a result on my southbound trip, I achieved only 10 l/100km (23,5 US mpg) keeping speeds 130-140km/h (80-90mph). In some places, the transmission downshifted to 4th to maintain speed (4500rpm). I know that fuel consumption isn't optimal at those speeds, but a diesel would surely have more torque to maintain a easy cruise and sip fuel.

It's irritating when the prime reason for "slowing down" becomes fuel consumption as opposed to revenue enforcement or traffic.

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I have had 3 X3"s all similarly equipped and all ED. My new one, the 3.5) will be ordered when we can find a dealer who needs a sale, will cost 52K MSRP. This is 3-5 K more than my earlier cars, most of the difference is attributable to the ED discount. I have also price d out a 535IX (ED comming in at 52K and X5 at 54K (base model no leather) The BMW rebate also comes into play with the 5 series being 500 higher than the 3 series. We shall see.
Found someone who was reasonable, nickel over. New car priced out at 51.3K MSRP, waiting production number.
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For anyone curious, the xDrive30d is now available to build-your-own on the German Configurator, with a start price of €49.250 inclusive 19% MwSt. The M sportpaket is also available as an option now.

http://www.bmw.de/de/de/newvehicles/...figurator.html

Built my own this evening, came out to an even €60.000 which is a lot of money. Most folks here would hate it- single-zone climate control, Business Radio (basic, no iDrive), manual sport seats, no seat heating, no Light package (no ambience lighting or make-up mirrors) and no moonroof.

However, I did get luxuries like the adaptive xenons, M Sportpaket, sport suspension, Climate Comfort windshield, Homelink mirror, Storage paket, tinted windows, Performance Control, Variable steering, PDC, 4-way lumbar, Hi-fi sound (standard in US), multi-function steering wheel, and rear window shades.
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I get my 35i tomorrow. I ordered it about 4 weeks ago. From the start of production to delivery tomorrow , it took just under 3 weeks.

WooHoo!
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I get my 35i tomorrow. I ordered it about 4 weeks ago. From the start of production to delivery tomorrow , it took just under 3 weeks.

WooHoo!
Nice! I have seen 2 new X3's driving around here.
We got an X3 28i on order for my mom = Less power FTW

I would vote for the 35i as I myself would like a little more get up and go and be able to chip that engine. But if all you want is better fuel economy and don't need the power, 28i aint bad when you give it a few options
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Just got mine!

I took delivery of my 35i, blacksapphire, chestnut,premium, technology, sport, heated seats, premium sound, sat. radio.

I am a happy, happy girl! I had a 120 mile drive home from the dealership and it was fabulous. The acceleration up a steep grade on the highway was smooth and strong.

I am very pleased! $2000 off $MSRP.
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