Need Advice to Keep or Sell - Lengthy Read

Originally Posted by x3brian

The CPO warranty is essentially a power train warranty. It covers the expensive stuff:

Engine
Transmission
Final drive assemble/transfer case
Steering
Hydraulic brake parts (not pads or rotors)
Abs
Electrical (not accs like the radio)
Hvac
Cooling system
Fuel system

All else excluded including wear and use items

Thanks Brian

I thought I'd pop in and post an update as you have all been very helpful.

I did go check out the 2011 Toyota Highlander on 1/29/11 and ended up trading in my '07 X3. Got a great deal I couldn't pass up.

I have absolutely NO regrets at all and am thoroughly enjoying the new ride and the features I was missing in my X3 (back-up camera, heated seats, auto dimming rearview mirror, compass, FOUR CUPHOLDERS, etc.).....LOL! Love the size and responsiveness too.

For me, it was the 'right' decision and I am not looking back. It's actually a relief that I won't have to deal with my acceleration issues (ok no Toyota jokes please ) and other service visits anymore.

Anyway, I will always love bemers and wish you all the best with yours!

Thanks again for listening
Cheers!

Originally Posted by kcmo

It's actually a relief that I won't have to deal with my acceleration issues (ok no Toyota jokes please ) and other service visits anymore

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...71N3IU20110224

Make sure they take care of this latest recall for you. Looks like Highlander is also affected.

Congratulations on the new ride, though.

Originally Posted by solefald

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...71N3IU20110224

Make sure they take care of this latest recall for you. Looks like Highlander is also affected.

Congratulations on the new ride, though.

Sort of tough to tell exactly which models are included, but I will find out soon enough.

Thanks!

Most of your complaints seem to be items that you can work through - perhaps with some degree of involvement yourself. In this case I would say "better the devil you know" since no vehicle is perfect and you're likely to signing up for another set of hassels if you go down some other path. If you sign up for something new you will be off the hook as far as paying out of pocket for maintenance work - but you will be paying dearly for that privledge. Therefore it probably all comes down to your tolerance for risk, annoyances, and financal situation. Let us know what you decide.

Originally Posted by shendrick

Most of your complaints seem to be items that you can work through - perhaps with some degree of involvement yourself. In this case I would say "better the devil you know" since no vehicle is perfect and you're likely to signing up for another set of hassels if you go down some other path. If you sign up for something new you will be off the hook as far as paying out of pocket for maintenance work - but you will be paying dearly for that privledge. Therefore it probably all comes down to your tolerance for risk, annoyances, and financal situation. Let us know what you decide.

Already did

Good luck on your new Toyota. I know I could not go back now. Even though my BMW had teething problems, it has been flawless since around 40k miles. A few growing pains, but that is what warranties are for!

I look forward to hitting 100k miles at the end of the year! I love my X3!

Originally Posted by madurodave

CPO covers the major systems. I had to use mine for my wife's 530xi. The sunroof seals were bad. It was a new sunroof cassette 2 years earlier, so very fast seal degradation. Cost me the $50 deductible to fix. That is my only CPO use so far. My X3 has been on CPO for a year, but no issues yet.

As far as exact coverage, check the BMW site for terms. Major systems covered, wear and tear is not. Not sure how my dealer got the seals covered, but they did.

Squeaks, rattles - not covered. I did hear some door seal noise on the X3. They lubed the seals for no cost.

Just curious what dealer you go to in NH? I live in Mass and the dealers I have dealt with are not great and will not go out of their way for you without a major fight. I would love to find a new dealer who will actually help me and not give me an attitude when I am bringing in my car for yet more problems.

Originally Posted by rlgarry

Just curious what dealer you go to in NH? I live in Mass and the dealers I have dealt with are not great and will not go out of their way for you without a major fight. I would love to find a new dealer who will actually help me and not give me an attitude when I am bringing in my car for yet more problems.

IRA BMW of Stratham. They have been top notch in my book. Jim Medeiros is the Service Director and has a great service staff. Sales - only dealt with Kurt Baitz who has been top notch. Hey, I bought 3 BMWs from them now! Always friendly, great service, nice loaners (as long as you schedule, otherwise could be Enterprise rental). Ken Deem is the service foreman and full of knowledge and willing to talk about your issues.

If they are not too far, swing by sometime!

Originally Posted by madurodave

Good luck on your new Toyota. I know I could not go back now. Even though my BMW had teething problems, it has been flawless since around 40k miles. A few growing pains, but that is what warranties are for!

I look forward to hitting 100k miles at the end of the year! I love my X3!

Thanks Dave....continue to enjoy yours.

Originally Posted by kcmo

Thanks Dave....continue to enjoy yours.

I hope so - as I approach the end of CPO coverage, I lose the safety net!

So the Toyota recall is back to floor mats again?

Originally Posted by madurodave

I hope so - as I approach the end of CPO coverage, I lose the safety net!

So the Toyota recall is back to floor mats again?

Yup, looks like it. Luckily my '11 isn't on the list.

Originally Posted by kcmo

Yup, looks like it. Luckily my '11 isn't on the list.

That's crazy!

So I thought they addressed the issues during the last recall?


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The unfortunate thing is cars seem to continue how they start out. If you have no problems that seems to continue throughout the life of your ownership -- assuming you do the maintentance of course. If it starts out as a garage queen then it is likely to continue to plague you down the road (pun intended). The exception to this seems to be Land Rover/RR which all start out as garage queens and after a fairly long time, when virtually everything that can be replaced was they turn into pretty bulletproof machines. Try the Highlander, Vera Cruz or Santa Fe. These offer excellent reliability (according to J. D. Power), a lot of content, low prices and great crash scores. Your present ride seems a bit tempermental and you might be a bit unforgiving of minor problems if I could venture an opinion. Good luck!

Originally Posted by madurodave

That's crazy!
So I thought they addressed the issues during the last recall?

Last recall was for floor mats. The fix? Punch 4 holes in floor mats and tie them to the seat base. Yep.

http://jalopnik.com/#!5376828/toyota...-with-zip-ties
http://blogs.motortrend.com/toyotas-...ence-2505.html

Hey whatever works! My velcro hooked BMW mats slip and slide too, but don't cause any problems. I may try that method with the plastic ties just to keep them neat.

Originally Posted by kcmo

Forgot to mention that my car has 14,900 miles on it

A 4 year old car with only 15k miles? I would agree with the dealer that the car isn't being driven enough. Momentum BMW here in Houston replaced the battery in our '07 X3 with no issues (mileage around 49K). If it's sitting that much you are inviting trouble. Just my $.02. Toyota makes a good product (have had several, personal and company cars) In fact our youngest has a 1999 Camry with well over 100k miles and still going strong. Good luck.