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Old 02-24-2011, 02:38 PM
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New F10 528 vs E60 528

I just had a 528 loaner for five day's and i am really impressed. According to the BMW website the 528 is about 300 hundred pounds lighter than than the 535. Ive driven a e60 528 and felt underpowered compared to the 535, but the f10 528 does not. I also noticed less body roll maybe even hardly any body roll. Of course ultimate grip will be with the sport package, but the loaner without it i pushed it really hard in 30 degree weather no less and did not loose grip. I mean i wen't almost as fast around the highway ramp as i would with my e60 535 sport.

As far as the acceleration it never felt as if i needed more. I'm guessing 0-60 in at least 6.4 seconds may be less but i doubt it. With all that in mind and the car being smoother i think i could be very happy with the base car only adding nav. and luxury pack or a list price of no more than 52k that,s 12k less than how i would load up a 535 sport what's your opinions i would like to know.

Also i'm definitely convinced the steering lost it's feel but it,s definitely livable.
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:21 PM
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I have bought the 550i M Sport with all extras + Sports box so answers your question?.
NO................... More power the better.
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:30 PM
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and once you experience 528 millage you will love it even more, i'm getting 360 miles to the tank, filling up bigger engine cars got old for me....
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The F10 528 has plenty of power for most everyone and the best MPG of all the 5s. But, if you want the higher torque, faster acceleration, or suffer from a smaller than average Johnson, go for the 535 or 550. Either way, you're still getting one hell of a driving machine.
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the f10 528 has plenty of power for most everyone and the best mpg of all the 5s. But, if you want the higher torque, faster acceleration, or suffer from a smaller than average johnson, go for the 535 or 550. Either way, you're still getting one hell of a driving machine.
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BTW is there any way to get more power out of the 528? Any mods? And doe's anybody know the actual 0-60 time for the 528?

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:48 AM
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The F10 528 has plenty of power for most everyone and the best MPG of all the 5s. But, if you want the higher torque, faster acceleration, or suffer from a smaller than average Johnson, go for the 535 or 550. Either way, you're still getting one hell of a driving machine.
No wonder this board is overrun with 535 and 550 owners.... ......just playin'!
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:01 AM
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Dinan has been involved in boosting BMW performance for quite some time now and may be the only ones that can mod the car without impacting BMW warranty. Haven't checked on their mods for F10 528 but I wouldn't be surprised if they have one available even this early. Be careful though, many of the mods do not apply to xi vehicles. Good luck with that!
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:24 AM
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I owned an E39 528 an F61 525D and now drive a F11 530D
More power is better.
Torque of the BMW diesel is fantastic, the sport ZF box is a must.

But then, in the trafic I use the car most predomminantly, the ambundance of all this...

Maybe I would be as pleased with a F11 528, with the forementioned sport auto.
And spend the saved money on another toy, like an extra Yamaha Grizzly....

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I would love to try the coming M5 though!
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:12 AM
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BTW is there any way to get more power out of the 528? Any mods? And doe's anybody know the actual 0-60 time for the 528?
The 0-60 for the 528i is about 6.5-6.6. If you're on a 30 degree downgrade with a 35 MPH tailwind, the time could be reduced to about 5.5.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:45 PM
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I just had a 528 loaner for five day's and i am really impressed. According to the BMW website the 528 is about 300 hundred pounds lighter than than the 535. Ive driven a e60 528 and felt underpowered compared to the 535, but the f10 528 does not. I also noticed less body roll maybe even hardly any body roll. Of course ultimate grip will be with the sport package, but the loaner without it i pushed it really hard in 30 degree weather no less and did not loose grip. I mean i wen't almost as fast around the highway ramp as i would with my e60 535 sport.

As far as the acceleration it never felt as if i needed more. I'm guessing 0-60 in at least 6.4 seconds may be less but i doubt it. With all that in mind and the car being smoother i think i could be very happy with the base car only adding nav. and luxury pack or a list price of no more than 52k that,s 12k less than how i would load up a 535 sport what's your opinions i would like to know.

Also i'm definitely convinced the steering lost it's feel but it,s definitely livable.
That was exactly my logic for ordering 528. Since it will be my first bimmer I don't have issues with steering
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:01 AM
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The 0-60 for the 528i is about 6.5-6.6. If you're on a 30 degree downgrade with a 35 MPH tailwind, the time could be reduced to about 5.5.
It equals the Nissan GTR over the side of a cliff.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:00 AM
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528 vs. 535 vs. 550

I've driven all three and have to say, if you like the 528, you'll love the 535. If you like the 535, you'll love the 550. Having said that, I'm planning on a 528 with just a few extras for a commuter car and think I will be very happy. I like the idea of good mileage even though you can argue the actual cost isn't as significant as it sounds.

The 528 is a great car with a great engine. My only questions are 1) color choice - I like the deep sea blue or space gray metallic and 2) going the European Delivery option.

Trying to decide this week!
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:05 PM
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It equals the Nissan GTR over the side of a cliff.
Sure, but with the BMW you have got the choice to go over or not.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:53 PM
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Sure, but with the BMW you have got the choice to go over or not.
I thought you had to go over - is it an option?
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I'm guessing this particular "28" trim motor is going to be the red-headed stepchild as far as modding goes, because I think just the 528 and X3 28i are using this motor, and for 1 year only before getting replaced with the N20 I4T engine. With so few of them on the road, I'm guessing few if any tuners will offer any upgrades for them.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:41 PM
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I'm guessing this particular "28" trim motor is going to be the red-headed stepchild as far as modding goes, because I think just the 528 and X3 28i are using this motor, and for 1 year only before getting replaced with the N20 I4T engine. With so few of them on the road, I'm guessing few if any tuners will offer any upgrades for them.
Dinan does have a tune for the naturally aspirated motors. I think it's either 5 or 10 HP.

But really, any well-engineered naturally aspirated engine will be tough to get any substantial gains out of it via a tune. Only way is to get it to breathe better by intake / exhaust.

Remember - engine is solely an air / fuel pump. More air / fuel you can pump through, the more power you can make. Via displacement, revs or forced induction to change the volume of mixture, the more the merrier.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:22 PM
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I've driven all three and have to say, if you like the 528, you'll love the 535. If you like the 535, you'll love the 550. Having said that, I'm planning on a 528 with just a few extras for a commuter car and think I will be very happy. I like the idea of good mileage even though you can argue the actual cost isn't as significant as it sounds.

The 528 is a great car with a great engine. My only questions are 1) color choice - I like the deep sea blue or space gray metallic and 2) going the European Delivery option.

Trying to decide this week!
ED is great if you can. I went for next best option i. e pcd. I went for grey after I heard dark colors are high maintenance
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:00 PM
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I'm guessing this particular "28" trim motor is going to be the red-headed stepchild as far as modding goes, because I think just the 528 and X3 28i are using this motor, and for 1 year only before getting replaced with the N20 I4T engine. With so few of them on the road, I'm guessing few if any tuners will offer any upgrades for them.
i don't think many people will mod their 5 series with engine tuning, it's a different class of a car to tune
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