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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-01-2011, 12:30 PM
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Pet setting off my alarm from the inside

I hope someone can help us with this issue. This last weekend My wife and I took a drive in our 98 540 to visit our son in Oregon. We brought along my wife's new poodle pup and she road fine in a small pet crate in the back seat. Occasionally we would need to leave her in the car while we got lunch and such and each time we did, she would somehow set off the car alarm. Most of the time the weather was cloudy and in the 40s, she is inside of a pet crate on the back seat, and she is only about 4 pounds. How is she able to set off the alarm... any ideas? The alarm goes off within about 2 minutes. Could it be noise setting it off?

We ended-up having to leave the car unlocked and parked where we could watch it as it also had items that could be stolen easily.

Thanks for any info on this problem and yes, we know about the dangers of leaving pets in cars that could heat-up from the sun. I would never do anything to this little creature that would in any way harm her.
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Motion sensor in the roof panel. RTFM for how to disable it.

If you don't want to disable the motion sensor just lock the car manually and don't arm the alarm.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:44 PM
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HaHa! I had the same experience with our two Bichons before I read the owners manual and found out that by locking the car and then pushing the lock button again I could disarm the motion sensor. The first time it happened was in the parking lot of the grocery store and attracted an entire herd of very concerned women.
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from the owners manual...both the tilt & interior motion sensors are turned off at the same time using the same method:

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Old 03-01-2011, 01:43 PM
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LOL,

I learned it the hard way a year ago!
Went to the grocery store, told my teenager daughter to sit in the car (she wanted to stay in the car to read a book).
I locked the door and went shopping.
By the time I finished shopping, my daughter was upset because the alarm was going off like crazy for 2-3 min and she did not know how to turn it off LOL.
And Yes, later searched and of course I found QSilver7's post!!
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:03 PM
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BTW...if your car is a 97-99...NEVER lock people (kids, spouse, siblings, sig other, co-workers, etc) in the car. If you're exiting the vehicle and passengers are remaining in the car, let them lock themselves in by pressing the central locking button on the center console (or manually locking their doors + the drivers door after you've left the car).

The reason is...until the 2000 model year, when you lock the car with the key (remotely or manually) it double-locks the car. For the early years (97-99 or 96-99 for markets outside the USA)...this means even pulling twice on the interior door handles WILL NOT unlock the door. So not only will passengers be locked inside the car unable to open the door...30 seconds after locking the door...the interior motion sensor will go off the moment any one moves.

If you have a 2000-up model year...if the car is double locked...passengers inside the car can still unlock the door and exit the vehicle by pressing the central locking button then pulling twice on the interior door handle:

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LOL,

I learned it the hard way a year ago!
Went to the grocery store, told my teenager daughter to sit in the car (she wanted to stay in the car to read a book).
I locked the door and went shopping.
By the time I finished shopping, my daughter was upset because the alarm was going off like crazy for 2-3 min and she did not know how to turn it off LOL.
And Yes, later searched and of course I found QSilver7's post!!
You are lucky she didn't try to get out of the car. Because if she would try, she'd discover that she is locked inside with no way out.

Just imagine her panic and how much more furious she would be at you when you come back....

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Where do you get these documents?
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:17 PM
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Thanks all for this info, I didn't know a 4 pound toy poodle pup could set off a motion sensor in a car as heavy as a 540 but it must be what the problem was. I'll try the trick with the double lock and see how that works.

Thanks again
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It's not the tilt sensor, it's a motion sensor. A bee flying around in the car will set it off. Locking twice turns off both of those sensors.
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... it's a motion sensor. A bee flying around in the car will set it off. Locking twice turns off both of those sensors.
Ditto with the flying insect...Ive had the alarm go off, go out to the car and wonder why...then see that a bee or wasp had flown in thru the sunroof or window that was cracked open.

Then one time...I got out of the car to get something...and left the sunroof open (again)...and was getting ready to unlock the car and get back in but remembered I needed to do something else. I had a pair of work gloves in my hand and decided just to toss them in on the seat before going back to take care of it...and scared the crap out of myself as the alarm went off as the gloves set off the interior motion sensor!
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QSilver7,

Where do you get these documents?
If you go to www.e38.org & www.e38.org/e39 ...you'll see that there are a lot of PDF links. These PDF links are to a lot of BMW technical information. They've been on these sites for years.

The problem is that many people get put off by them because it requires reading lots of technical information. If the owners manual turns you off...then these PDF tech documents may send many folks over the edge. The downside is that you miss a lot of details that the owners manual glosses over.

To find the PDF files...just do a page search [Ctrl+F] and type "PDF" as your search word...you'll see as you press the "next" tab...that there's quite a few PDF documents on those sites.
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I actually don't really get the motion sensor feature in a non-convertible. Is the point of it that you can arm the alarm and leave the window open, an the motion sensor will go off if someone reaches in?

When hit the button to lock and arm the car--and I've left the sunroof open--the car locks but does not chirp; thus, the alarm is not on. Correct? Can you even turn the alarm on with windows open?

If not, I don't understand why there is a motion sensor at all.
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We brought along my wife's new poodle pup and she road fine in a small pet crate in the back seat. Occasionally we would need to leave her in the car while we got lunch and such and each time we did, she would somehow set off the car alarm. How is she able to set off the alarm... any ideas?
Restrict excess movement by wrapping entire animal with duct tape.

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If you go to www.e38.org & www.e38.org/e39 ...you'll see that there are a lot of PDF links. These PDF links are to a lot of BMW technical information. They've been on these sites for years.

The problem is that many people get put off by them because it requires reading lots of technical information. If the owners manual turns you off...then these PDF tech documents may send many folks over the edge. The downside is that you miss a lot of details that the owners manual glosses over.

To find the PDF files...just do a page search [Ctrl+F] and type "PDF" as your search word...you'll see as you press the "next" tab...that there's quite a few PDF documents on those sites.
Q, maybe this should be its own thread in the DIY section, under something like "how to research BMW technical bulletins."
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I actually don't really get the motion sensor feature in a non-convertible. Is the point of it that you can arm the alarm and leave the window open, an the motion sensor will go off if someone reaches in?

If you leave the windows are sunroof open...the owners manual recommends that you turn the motion sensor off (see the very last sentence in the text inside the red box in Post #4 above). As mentioned by me and others...a small flying insect or people walking by the car can set the sensor off. In the times you want to leave a window (wide) open...I would suggest locking the car (twice) which turns off the motion sensor...but still double locks the car.

The reason for the IMS (interior motion sensor) is to alert and scare off the smash & grab types of theft. Many thefts occur by this method (see pic below) and if this was to occur to you (God forbid)...not only would the alarm go off, but the lights would flash...and because our cars DOUBLE lock when you use the key...the thief can't reach in and open the door. So they would only be able to take something left on the seat that they could reach...and in doing so...they'd be reaching over broken glass. If they want entry into the car, they would have to crawl thru the broken window...and back out again.

So the IMS and the double locking feature is a deterrent for theft...or reduces the possibility of more things being taken or destroyed in a theft attempt.

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To check if your alarm has been activated...look at the red LED (clown nose) below your rear view mirror. The LED indicates the STATUS of your car's alarm:

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Since we're on the subject; something I've never been able to figure out happened to me one day. Maybe someone can clue me in. I parked my car and started walking away and as usual hit the lock button on the key, but, I think I hit one of the other buttons at the same time, I wasn't really paying attention. But, instead of the car just beeping and locking, the lights also started flashing. I've tried to get it to do it again, but have never been able to replicate it. Any thoughts?
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There is a PANIC mode...and multiple & simultaneous button presses may have partially activated this mode & turned it off...creating a half & half where the lights flashed but the alarm was silenced.

(just speculation...not fact).


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Q, does the alarm not go off when the glass is broken? I guess my point was if the alarm is triggered by breaking glass, then the IMS isn't really needed...UNLESS one can arm the alarm with the windows/sunroof open.
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In Firefox, when I "/" for "alarm" or "ews" in the VERY best of E39 Links, I get only the following put there by others:

NOTE: From the BMW E39 glossary:
EWS = Electronik Weg (away) Schutzen (protect)

Attempting to turn just those references into a cohesive keyword-rich sentence:
- How to understand the BMW E39 EWS alarm drive-away protection system (1) (2) & troubleshoot (1) (2) (3) or replace the siren (1) or disable the unlock chirp (1) (2) as you sneak out of the house.

If I were troubleshooting "my" alarm system, of course I'd do an extensive search; but I'm just consolidating other people's links; so that's as good as I can do with the existing links (since I didn't bother with an additional search & subsequent reading of all the posts and consolidating and organizing them).

As it is, how does it look for a bestlinks reference line?

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If you leave the windows are sunroof open...the owners manual recommends that you turn the motion sensor off (see the very last sentence in the text inside the red box in Post #4 above). As mentioned by me and others...a small flying insect or people walking by the car can set the sensor off. In the times you want to leave a window (wide) open...I would suggest locking the car (twice) which turns off the motion sensor...but still double locks the car.

The reason for the IMS (interior motion sensor) is to alert and scare off the smash & grab types of theft. Many thefts occur by this method (see pic below) and if this was to occur to you (God forbid)...not only would the alarm go off, but the lights would flash...and because our cars DOUBLE lock when you use the key...the thief can't reach in and open the door. So they would only be able to take something left on the seat that they could reach...and in doing so...they'd be reaching over broken glass. If they want entry into the car, they would have to crawl thru the broken window...and back out again.

So the IMS and the double locking feature is a deterrent for theft...or reduces the possibility of more things being taken or destroyed in a theft attempt.

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To check if your alarm has been activated...look at the red LED (clown nose) below your rear view mirror. The LED indicates the STATUS of your car's alarm:


So let's say the alarm was activated without my knowledge..Whe I return to my car to unlock it, it should "Rapid flash for 10 seconds then OFF" ??

Also, is the LED light even visible at all in daylight? I would check right now but my car is parked inside a parking structure.
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Q, does the alarm not go off when the glass is broken? I guess my point was if the alarm is triggered by breaking glass, then the IMS isn't really needed...UNLESS one can arm the alarm with the windows/sunroof open.
We don't have a "glass breakage" sensor like some of the older BMWs. We have the IMS. If someone breaks the glass...the alarm goes off because the IMS picked up movement within the interior of the car. But also remember...there are 2 types of IMSs...the older versions use RF (radio frequency) technology...and the latter ones use "sound pressure" (less false alarming). If a fly, bee, or wasp can set off the IMS, then flying shards of glass will set it off as well. Those with the Ultrasonic IMS...can be set off by a cell phone going off...again, these work by sound waves (pressure).

I'm not sure if I understand your last comment...because the car's alarm system can be armed with the windows/sunroof opened or closed. It's just that if the windows/sunroof are open...the system will more than likely be activated as someone walks past the car, a strong wind blows (especially if you have the latter Ultra-sonic IMS) or any object (large or small) that enters within the range of the IMS.

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1. So let's say the alarm was activated without my knowledge..Whe I return to my car to unlock it, it should "Rapid flash for 10 seconds then OFF" ??

2. Also, is the LED light even visible at all in daylight? I would check right now but my car is parked inside a parking structure.
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1. Yes, if the alarm was activated while you were away and you return to the car BEFORE 5 minutes...the "clown nose" will be flashing rapidly. If you return AFTER 5...when you disarm the alarm, the "clown nose" should flash rapidly for 10 seconds, then turn off.

If the alarm was NOT activated...when your disarm the alarm, the "clown nose" turns off.

2. Yes, as much as any light or LED can be seen in daylight/sunlight. Obviously a very bright "high noon" sunny day in the middle of summer...it may be more difficult to see the alarm's LED depending on many variable...are you facing the sun, facing away from the sun, parked in the shade, etc.
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