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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-24-2011, 05:37 PM
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My son ran his 2001 528i with a cracked radiator and ended up with a blown head gasket and bad water pump. The shop that looked at it said two of the head bolts tightened, but a third just spun so the engine is shot.

Is there a market to sell a beemer with a bad engine? It is very clean. Or, is there a reliable place to try to buy a rebuilt engine? Perhaps a BMW enthusiasts would like a project to work on...

The car is currently in the Seattle area.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:24 AM
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My son ran his 2001 528i with a cracked radiator and ended up with a blown head gasket and bad water pump.
This is so sad. It happens at least once a week judging from the posts we get (and you're not the first father to report that his son learned the hard lesson that the BMW cooling system is a time bomb that will ruin the engine pronto if not cared for).

See:
- What to tell people who overheated their BMW E39 engine (1)

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Is there a market to sell a beemer with a bad engine? Or, is there a reliable place to try to buy a rebuilt engine?
A friendly suggestion, if you want to sell it to an enthusiast, call it a 'bimmer' because it's not a motorcycle.

See:
- What is the difference between a bimmer and a beemer and, um, yeah, a beamer (1)

In the thread I referenced above, there are places listed which will sell a rebuilt engine for the E39. You might want to price it out.

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The car is currently in the Seattle area.
You can get the parts value and some reliable shops for advice from this link:

- BMWfans phantom diagrams (1) & realoem nominal prices by part number (1) & EACTuning prices by part number (1) labor rates by zip code (1) (2) (3) where to find a good mechanic (1) (2) joining BMWCCA (1) (2) & finding a reputable BMW indy in your area (1) (2) & the most often recommended parts suppliers (1)

Good luck. Let us know what you end up doing.
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Fair enough if a daughter did it because, no offense bee but women know f all about cars and they car just as much.
But for a boy to have the same 0 factor? Is it just me or are the younger generation of boys just caring less about their cars?

On the other hand man these lil aluminium blocks are weak as piss!!!


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Old 03-25-2011, 03:09 PM
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Truth be told.... If I didn't know E39 cooling systems were so prone to failure, I wouldn't know to pay any extra attention to it. Then again, I might not have bought it...


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Old 03-25-2011, 06:07 PM
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RE: mazzellaak

You can do a used engine with a 2-year warranty. If you decide to fix it let me know and i will discount it down for you. I'll be back in the office Monday.

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Old 03-26-2011, 01:21 PM
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You can do a used engine with a 2-year warranty.
Hi Joe,
I'd like to add information from you to the recommendations in the threads.

Is there a specific web page listing options specific for E39 users who have blown engines (typically newbies to the forum) that I can reference them (other than the home page)?

Do you have an E39-specific linkable resource?

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They are close to you and do a very good job on their rebuilt engines. Go with the 5 year warranty. Going to have to balance out whether or not it is better to finance another car or just put a rebuilt engine in this one and keep driving it. In this economy, my bet is on the rebuilt.

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Old 04-14-2011, 04:20 PM
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Hi Joe,
I'd like to add information from you to the recommendations in the threads.

Is there a specific web page listing options specific for E39 users who have blown engines (typically newbies to the forum) that I can reference them (other than the home page)?

Do you have an E39-specific linkable resource?

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Sorry i just read this post, Thanks


BMW 528i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
Used
M52
1996 - 1998 BMW 528i 4DR E39




BMW 528i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
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 M52tu 1999 - 2000 BMW 528i 4DR E39




BMW 525i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
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BMW 530i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
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2000 - 2003 BMW 530i 4DR E39




BMW 540i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
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BMW 540i 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block -
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BMW M5 4DR E39 ENGINE - ASSEMBLY - Long Block - Used

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Old 04-14-2011, 05:06 PM
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Hope the son won't be getting the car back anytime soon

I'd replace the engine. IMHO there's little that will replace an E39.
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Sorry i just read this post
Thanks.

I peppered the overheat advice and engine-swap advice threads with the following table from you so that users with this problem have the information ready at hand.

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Consider replacing the engine using one from the sponsors, e.g.,

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Old 07-16-2011, 06:36 AM
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Based on yet another overheated-engine-blown thread today:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > Engine head

For the cross linked record, to help others in the future, I've compiled all the overheated-engine-blown threads I could into a set of comprehensive links as shown below:

- Summary advice to provide users who suspect a major engine repair due to overheating (1) & how to test an engine for blown head gasket, cracked heads, a warped block, cam seizures, contaminated bearings, coolant hydrolock, or piston, ring, or valve damage (1) (2) & a well researched reusable response to a particular user with a blown engine (1) & what questions to ask when severe heating-related damage is initially suspected (1) & welding the crack between cylinder #3 and the water jacket on the exhaust side (1) & what E39 engine swaps are most recommended (1) (2) (3) & how to lift & remove the engine (1) & where to obtain a new or rebuilt replacement short block or long block (1) (2) & why the E39 engines are so prone to heat-related damage in the first place (1) & real-world results from people faced with similar blown engine problems from which this advice came from (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28).
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:21 AM
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Fair enough if a daughter did it because, no offense bee but women know f all about cars and they car just as much.
But for a boy to have the same 0 factor? Is it just me or are the younger generation of boys just caring less about their cars?

On the other hand man these lil aluminium blocks are weak as piss!!!


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I think it's true about the younger guys caring less about their cars... Three of my friends have had to have their engines replaced due to overheat, my girlfriend's brother doesn't know how to change a spare tire, and all my friends (and friends of friends) come to me with all their car troubles because they don't know what to do and don't wanna pay for a shop.

I'm 19 and I've had my 2000 528i since I was 15 and have put almost 70k miles on it (got it at 100k miles) and i do all the work myself on my car and enjoy every bit of it. Maybe thats why everyone comes to me for problems... I dunno... Sorry for ranting
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:51 PM
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I think it's true about the younger guys caring less about their cars...
We were all young once ...
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Another overheated leaking cylinder #3 today:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > Cylinder 3 Misfire

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I think I found the problem... its head gasket! there is a leak on cylinder 3, so it taking coolant and it mixing it with the oil! How much do you guys think its gonna cost me?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:24 PM
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I stopped referencing the blown-engine threads in the bestlinks at 50 threads, but, one thing interesting about this thread today is that one person's catastrophe is another person's boon!
> 5 Series > E39 (1997 - 2003) > ENGINE R&R help...
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Grabbed a 1999 BMW 528iT wagon over the weekend. Bought it for less than most people make in one day with average wages......

Head gasket is FRIED, so thinking of doing an engine swap. I notice that the 99 has an aluminum block and the double VANOS timing system......

I put some want ads out there and I get some replies about the 328i engine will work if I switch the oil pan, then another reply said stick with the exact engine......
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:35 PM
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Another blown engine:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > SES light

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Well I ha sveome bad news to report. The shop say that there is no compression in one cylinder and 2 are around 60. He thinks that putting money into the engine maybe a bad idea. A used engine is 2500 online and repairing the whole thing would likely run me 4K....
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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Hello, I am new to the forum just purchased a 2003 BMW 325i from an individual about 2 weeks ago for my wife. Car was really clean and looked to have been taken care of. Exactly a week later the expansion tank cracked. So I ordered a tank and put it on and bled the coolant system. The car was still overheating. So I took it to a local import mechanic. Mechanic says engine compression is getting into the cooling system. And that I have either a blown head gasket or cracked head or block. So I am looking at replacing the engine. I am more used to working on american hot rod type rwd vehicles, so I am kinda in the dark on a newer model BMW. How much trouble is it to swap the engines out myself? Any specialty tools necessary for swapping out the engine? Or will it be better to just pay the extra money and let him do it? !
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:39 PM
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Another cracked head, this one temporarily fixed with magic in a can:

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I own a 1997 528i that was given by my dad. my stepmom owned it and basically destroyed it she had some random guy change the fan clutch that was defective by the way and he crack my fan shroud. Anywho fast forward I replaced the clutch fan shroud and it was still overheating I flushed the system out and that sloved the problem but I had cracked a head seeing as tho i didnt put the drain plug back on correctly I end up putting blue devil in it and I was good to go. I drove it for about three weeks and every now and then the temp would move up then go to normal when i speed up eventually it got to the point where i couldnt drive it at all with out it jumping into the hot zone. The problem now is that the coolant is leaking from the reservoir cap. my uncle said it was the water pump and so I got a new water pump put it on which was a bish by the way filled it up and drove it around the block it did good for a while them you guessed it HOT HOT HOT. i parked it and antifreeze came pouring out it seems i didnt tighten the radiator hose tight enough, but even after that I fill it up again and bleed it let it sit nothing I drove off and immediately it started climbing again like WTF. i bled it and everything yet it overheats the thermostat is open its got coolant its ok when its idle but as soon as I start driving it overheats and yet again the coolant leaks from the reservoir cap PLEASE PLEASE any suggestions on what can it be. im going crazy tryna figure this damn car out.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:42 PM
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Here's another one today which is probably an overheated engine due for replacement:

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Hey everyone, I am really frustrated right now, my car is not passing inspection and Im not sure what is wrong. I was hoping someone could give some advice or answers. My CEL light has come on and its the codes for my pre-cat sensor. I decided to do a tuneup and changed all filters, oil change, new spark plugs, new sensors, new MAF sensor and still the CEL light comes on. It is now starting to overheat too.

When I first start it in the mornings it is rough, and you have to press the gas peddle a bit so it doesnt turn off. The Other I was doing this and I noticed the Catalytic convertor was bright red and glowing. Also the car is now overheating sometimes. Both of my mechanics say its a vacuum leak and they cant find it, someone mentioned its my head gasket. Any ideas? Iv been driving a ford explorer and I drive about 400 miles a week, its killing me on gas I need my 528i back.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:07 AM
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Advice to young drivers....

Based on the topic, teach them to be alert to the smell of coolant.

I have gone through 4 young drivers. I have been lucky. Alertness and awareness can be stressed and they will remember you for it.

Quick instructions while still in the driveway. They cant always call AAA (or you).

What coolant smells like and its consequenses of loss.
How jumper cables work.
How to safely change a tire.
How to check oil level and windshield fluid.
How to change a light bulb. (easy pull-over for cops)
How to pull OFF the highway. (not breakdown lane)
You can judge a car pulling out by looking at its wheel spokes.

Do this when they want the keys for independence. You are catching them at their peceptive and absorbant peak.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:26 AM
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Quick instructions while still in the driveway
This is wonderful advice!

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Do this when they want the keys for independence. You are catching them at their peceptive and absorbant peak.
Very perceptive!

BTW, here's another thread opened today where, as usual, overheating is the first major symptom - yet - folks concentrate on bleeding - in the hopes that the air in the system is what's causing it to overheat.
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > 2001 525i Overheating

So that others have the bleeding information, I added these PDFs from the bestlinks to that thread:
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Bleeding_the_bmw_cooling_system.pdf (2.78 MB, 187 views)
BMW_TIS_17-00-005_Draining_and_topping_coolant.pdf (215.4 KB, 141 views)
BMW_TIS_17-00-039_Bleeding_cooling_system_and_checking_for_leaks .pdf (118.7 KB, 109 views)
BMW_TIS_17-00_Instructions_for_working_on_cooling_system.pdf (168.8 KB, 145 views)
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Get and older 528 engine put in I have a 1998 and it doesn't have the aluminum block
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For the record, another user with a blown engine today is seeking advice so I pointed him to the canonical set of replacement engine advice links, one of which is this one:

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I'M LOOKING FOR INFORMATION OR DIY ON AN E39! 2002 BMW 525i WITH THE SPORTS PACKAGE AND AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. WOULD BE GREAT TO ALSO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF REBUILD KITS, PRICES OR WHERE I COULD OBTAIN THEM FROM! VERY MUCH APPRECIATED IN ADVANCE. I have a cylinder w low compression and before I started pulling it apart to find out exactly what's wrong was hopin to get an idea on direction of other possible things to check to narrow the problem down a little more and a heads up on prices for things like cam valves rings gasket kits etc.....
cyl. 1,2,3,5,6 are 220 after 6 rotations. cyl 4 is 85 after 6 rotatiions!
EDIT: I also suggested these PDFs from the bestlinks:
BMW_E53_X5_M54_Engine_Training_Manual.pdf
M54_technical_information.pdf
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Looks like another Bimmer bought today with a blown engine.

At least I hope these guys get 'em cheap.

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I bought my 1999 540i a couple weeks ago and i still cannot get it to start. The engine turns over and have been consulting the bentley. I have tested the fuel pump to make sure it is running and with a jumper wire in the relay slot 6 and 2 the pump does come on. There is no check engine light on at all ... i have tested all the coils and checked the coil connectors with the multimeter with no problems found. However i believe the rear main seal is gone because there is oil coming out from the hole in the bellhousing of the transmission close to the crankshaft speed sensor( which appears to be new) also i noticed there was possibly some oil around the exhaust manifold at the back of the head. Does anyone have any ideas ... i really would like to be able to get this car running so i can experience it... I have never got to drive it yet...Where is the best place to buy parts and or for quality used engines. Please help me! Any help would be truely appreciated. Also is there anyone here from close to Myrtle Beach, SC?
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I just had my second diagnosis on my car and it has a blown engine. Looking to sell as i dont have the money to pay for a used one. Excepting reasonable offers. The car is located in New Jersey.
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