Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E39 (1997 - 2003)

E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-20-2011, 11:38 AM
vclifford vclifford is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CT
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 172
Mein Auto: 530i
tools for a new owner

Hi,
I am a new owner of a 2001 530i. I am planning to do a coolant system overhaul and other stuff which will come my way. I have common hand tools , sockets , drive, extension etc. What else is specific to BMW.

Do I need 32 mm wrench for fan clutch or a 32 mm socket mounted on 1/2" drive will do.
http://www.harborfreight.com/32mm-x-...ket-67830.html

I will first try a screw driver for holding the waterpump from turning and then go for special tool.

For general repairs Do I need to get a set of Hex keys, and a set of torx keys ( I have some torx bits from volvo).


Regards,
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 04-20-2011, 12:42 PM
bobdmac bobdmac is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Back in Oaktown, Yay Area
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,466
Mein Auto: 2001 540i/6, '90 BMW k75s
You need the wrench. Clearance is tight, and you'll have trouble fitting a socket in there.
__________________
BMW--giving new meaning to the phrase "disposable income."
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-20-2011, 12:53 PM
Fudman's Avatar
Fudman Fudman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Sudbury, MA
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,158
Mein Auto: '02 530i Sport auto
+1 on the 32 mm wrench
36mm for oil filter cap
16mm thin bicycle wrench for sway bar links
wobble adapters are nice (better than a universal) for getting to spark plug #6
Hex and torx bits are always handy and fairly cheap at HF
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-20-2011, 01:08 PM
bobdmac bobdmac is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Back in Oaktown, Yay Area
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,466
Mein Auto: 2001 540i/6, '90 BMW k75s
Quote:
Originally Posted by vclifford View Post
...I will first try a screw driver for holding the waterpump from turning and then go for special tool.
If you order them separately, you'll end up paying almost double the freight. Expect to spend a little under $50, including shipping for the two. If you get them separately, you'll spend closer to $75. I searched and searched and debated and debated and finally said, "The heck with it" (or words to that effect), and ordered both, from an eBay supplier. They just arrived and look good.
__________________
BMW--giving new meaning to the phrase "disposable income."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-20-2011, 03:31 PM
ZeroDfx's Avatar
ZeroDfx ZeroDfx is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Livermore, CA
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 232
Mein Auto: 2000 528iT
Depending upon whether you will be changing tranny & diff fluids yourself, you'll need to get a couple large hex head sockets (14mm?) and some smaller ones (6-7mm?) to remove brake calipers & rotors.
__________________
2000 528iT sport (Sienna Red w/ Tan)
2000 540i/6spd (Sienna Red / Tan)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-20-2011, 04:26 PM
Jimmys 530i Jimmys 530i is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Conyers, GA
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 811
Mein Auto: 2003 530i
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroDfx View Post
Depending upon whether you will be changing tranny & diff fluids yourself, you'll need to get a couple large hex head sockets (14mm?) and some smaller ones (6-7mm?) to remove brake calipers & rotors.
Right on. You will also need T30, T45, T20, and T25 bits. If I remember correctly, a 8mm hex is needed also.
__________________
2004 BMW 330ci Silvergray Sport Package, Cold Package, Xenon Headlamps, Premium Package, 6 Speed Manual, Build Date 9/03

Sold - 2003 325i Sedan Japanrot 5 Speed 8k Xenon Headlamps Build Date 11/02
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-20-2011, 06:18 PM
vclifford vclifford is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CT
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 172
Mein Auto: 530i
Thank you guys. I guess an adjustable wrench should be fine for the 36 MM oil filter housing.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Whorse Whorse is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Queens, Ny
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 357
Mein Auto: e30, e39
After owning 3 BMWs you end up needing a bigger tool box. no joke
__________________
Andreas
Queens NY
BMWCCA# 186796
86 325es (wrecked by careless driver)
87 325 300k (project for life) aka 1BADETA/Christine
00 540is 6spd 214k (daily driver) Timing chain guides just failed. In the middle of a full rebuild instead of repair. I wonder how much longer it would of gone if i just repaired it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-21-2011, 03:57 AM
Fudman's Avatar
Fudman Fudman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Sudbury, MA
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,158
Mein Auto: '02 530i Sport auto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorse View Post
After owning 3 BMWs you end up needing a bigger tool box. no joke
+1
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-21-2011, 06:26 AM
DAVLOH DAVLOH is offline
Registered User
Location: Connecticut
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12
Mein Auto: 2003 530i sport 5sp
add a good torque wrench to the list.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-21-2011, 06:32 AM
GSXRYDER GSXRYDER is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Sylvainia
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,239
Mein Auto: Z4M Coupe, 540i,Silverado
Start with

This set...you will not be sorry
__________________
99 540i-6 Sport & 07 Z4///M Coupe
Pure
Adrenalin!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-21-2011, 08:55 AM
vclifford vclifford is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CT
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 172
Mein Auto: 530i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorse View Post
After owning 3 BMWs you end up needing a bigger tool box. no joke
Judging by this I guess you have spare engines in your basement and 2-3 parts cars in backyard
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-21-2011, 09:47 AM
daw daw is offline
Registered User
Location: Cape Cod
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 1998 528i 5sp - 189K mi
If you've got a 1 1/4" open end wrench, it will work fine instead of a 32mm for removing the fan clutch.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-21-2011, 01:37 PM
ZeroDfx's Avatar
ZeroDfx ZeroDfx is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Livermore, CA
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 232
Mein Auto: 2000 528iT
Quote:
Originally Posted by vclifford View Post
Thank you guys. I guess an adjustable wrench should be fine for the 36 MM oil filter housing.
HELL NO!! Unless you want to spend another 4-5 hours removing a lot of the front end to R&R the complete oil filter housing!! Here's the link to the procedure from a BMW Tech who documented the DIY: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...1#post13970831

I just learned this the hard way; it took me a full day since the procedure was new to me.
For the cost of $8.99 plus tax you can pick up a 36mm 1/2" drive socket that will fit on a torque wrench to make certain all the force on the filter cap is vertical and not horizontal (pulling it away from the engine block).
__________________
2000 528iT sport (Sienna Red w/ Tan)
2000 540i/6spd (Sienna Red / Tan)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-21-2011, 02:50 PM
vclifford vclifford is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CT
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 172
Mein Auto: 530i
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroDfx View Post
HELL NO!! Unless you want to spend another 4-5 hours removing a lot of the front end to R&R the complete oil filter housing!! Here's the link to the procedure from a BMW Tech who documented the DIY: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...1#post13970831

I just learned this the hard way; it took me a full day since the procedure was new to me.
For the cost of $8.99 plus tax you can pick up a 36mm 1/2" drive socket that will fit on a torque wrench to make certain all the force on the filter cap is vertical and not horizontal (pulling it away from the engine block).
Thanks for the advice. I guess a 12 pt socket will be fine as well. Do you really use a torque wrench to tighten that, I do have one but this sounds like high standard for oil filter cap.

Regards,
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-21-2011, 04:28 PM
Whorse Whorse is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Queens, Ny
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 357
Mein Auto: e30, e39
Quote:
Originally Posted by vclifford View Post
Judging by this I guess you have spare engines in your basement and 2-3 parts cars in backyard
Hahahaha Very close, I have 1 spare engine in the garage along with an e30 and another e30 worth of parts. (parts car chopped up to save space) lol Just got this new box cause my old roll away was so over stuffed i couldn't open the drawers or find what i needed asap.
And the jesus statue in the corner is my helper on tedious e39 repairs.
__________________
Andreas
Queens NY
BMWCCA# 186796
86 325es (wrecked by careless driver)
87 325 300k (project for life) aka 1BADETA/Christine
00 540is 6spd 214k (daily driver) Timing chain guides just failed. In the middle of a full rebuild instead of repair. I wonder how much longer it would of gone if i just repaired it.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-21-2011, 04:47 PM
charlesberry's Avatar
charlesberry charlesberry is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 740
Mein Auto: E46 E89 F30(Msport)
This is what I use. Been adding to my collection for a while. EBAY actually has great deals on used tool boxes.

And yes, it is filled with MAC Tools.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	3 after.JPG
Views:	68
Size:	145.2 KB
ID:	275504   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_4234.JPG
Views:	70
Size:	214.1 KB
ID:	275505  

Last edited by charlesberry; 04-21-2011 at 04:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-21-2011, 04:59 PM
Whorse Whorse is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Queens, Ny
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 357
Mein Auto: e30, e39
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlesberry View Post
This is what I use. Been adding to my collection for a while. EBAY actually has great deals on used tool boxes.

And yes, it is filled with MAC Tools.
nice! now we gotta join a tool box forum, flat bed our boxes to shows and clean em up for concours class lmao
__________________
Andreas
Queens NY
BMWCCA# 186796
86 325es (wrecked by careless driver)
87 325 300k (project for life) aka 1BADETA/Christine
00 540is 6spd 214k (daily driver) Timing chain guides just failed. In the middle of a full rebuild instead of repair. I wonder how much longer it would of gone if i just repaired it.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-21-2011, 05:06 PM
charlesberry's Avatar
charlesberry charlesberry is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 740
Mein Auto: E46 E89 F30(Msport)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorse View Post
nice! now we gotta join a tool box forum, flat bed our boxes to shows and clean em up for concours class lmao
Whorse - I saw your box and thought "My new best friend!!"

On a serious note - a good set of tools will really save you thousands of dollars. I've done the cooling overhaul, brakes, oil filter housing gasket, and other small repairs. I can honestly say my tools have paid been paid for. Oh yeah, lots of oil changes!! At 128,000 miles I have no problem driving the car to California and back. Every repair I've done was done with DIY's from this website. Oh guys, invest in a a set of HEAVY DUTY jack stands. I still don't like getting under the car without a lift.

Last edited by charlesberry; 04-21-2011 at 05:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Whorse Whorse is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Queens, Ny
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 357
Mein Auto: e30, e39
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlesberry View Post
Whorse - I saw your box and thought "My new best friend!!"

On a serious note - a good set of tools will really save you thousands of dollars. I've done the cooling overhaul, brakes, oil filter housing gasket, and other small repairs. I can honestly say my tools have paid been paid for. Oh yeah, lots of oil changes!! At 128,000 miles I have no problem driving the car to California and back. Every repair I've done was done with DIY's from this website. Oh guys, invest in a a set of HEAVY DUTY jack stands. I still don't like getting under the car without a lift.
lmao, if my garage was tall enough i would already have a lift. We have been looking to buy our own house and every house we went to look at i was only concerned with the garage. lol yes i got problems
__________________
Andreas
Queens NY
BMWCCA# 186796
86 325es (wrecked by careless driver)
87 325 300k (project for life) aka 1BADETA/Christine
00 540is 6spd 214k (daily driver) Timing chain guides just failed. In the middle of a full rebuild instead of repair. I wonder how much longer it would of gone if i just repaired it.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-21-2011, 06:08 PM
charlesberry's Avatar
charlesberry charlesberry is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 740
Mein Auto: E46 E89 F30(Msport)
If you ever have a job that needs a second pair of hands, let me know. I'm right across the river.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-22-2011, 08:57 PM
bluebee's Avatar
bluebee bluebee is offline
Seek to understand,^Value
Location: San Jose, California
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,463
Mein Auto: 02 BMW 525i M54 auto 130K
There is no way you can get a 32mm socket on the fan clutch nut because the water pump in on one end and the fan is on the other.

However, you can easily make or buy for a few bucks decent fan counterhold & 32mm open-end wrench tools (from this thread) :


For brakes, these are the tools you'll need (from this thread):


See also from the bestlinks ...
Basic Tools:
- Basic tools needed for working on the BMW E39 (1) (2) (3)
- Where to get the BMW Bentley shop manual (1)
- Where to get a cheap OBDII DTC scanner (1) (2) or a better scanner (1) or the best diagnostic tools (1) (2) (3)

How to make your own E39 specialized tools:
- How to make your own BMW cooling system overhaul fan clutch nut counterhold tools (1) (2)
- How to make your own BMW thrust bushing tool (1) or buy them (1) (2) or improvise (1)
- How to make your own BMW car ramps (1)
- How to make your own BMW subframe & differential bushings tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW oxygen sensor removal tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW single-VANOS solonoid socket tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW camber & toe-in alignment tools (1)
- How to make your own BMW hella headlight adjusters (1) (2)
- How to make your own BMW rtab removal tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW upper timing chain locking tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW flywheel locking tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW cylinder head bolt removal tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW cam locking nut tool (1)
- How to make your own BMW crankshaft holder tool (1)
- How to make your own alignment tools to adjust toe-in and camber (1)


For oil changes, these are what is needed (from this thread):
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-22-2011, 09:10 PM
Whorse Whorse is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Queens, Ny
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 357
Mein Auto: e30, e39
One little correction Bluebee, You right about the wrench not fitting between the fan and pump BUT this does not go for all wrenches, My craftsmen wrenches don't fit but a cheapo name brand wrench i have does fit with no problem. I never had to use the pump holder unless the belts were already off the engine. I use the wrench and a rubber mallet after about 3 wacks it spins right off.
Ill check out what name brand it is tonight
__________________
Andreas
Queens NY
BMWCCA# 186796
86 325es (wrecked by careless driver)
87 325 300k (project for life) aka 1BADETA/Christine
00 540is 6spd 214k (daily driver) Timing chain guides just failed. In the middle of a full rebuild instead of repair. I wonder how much longer it would of gone if i just repaired it.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-22-2011, 11:12 PM
bluebee's Avatar
bluebee bluebee is offline
Seek to understand,^Value
Location: San Jose, California
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,463
Mein Auto: 02 BMW 525i M54 auto 130K
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorse View Post
a cheapo name brand wrench i have does fit with no problem
I agree.

There 'are' (long handled, thin) open-end wrenches which 'do' fit (they're all covered in the aforementioned thread).
- How to make your own BMW cooling system overhaul fan clutch nut counterhold tools (1)



But, here is where the OP used the word "socket" & specifically a 1/2-inch drive socket:

Quote:
Originally Posted by vclifford
Do I need 32 mm wrench for fan clutch or a 32 mm socket mounted on 1/2" drive will do.
So (Bob &) I were responding to the socket part only.

As Bobdmac intimated, there's just no way a "socket" will fit (but, as you said, a thin and long open-end wrench will fit just fine - but it has to be long and thin to work best).

BTW, I asked the same 'dumb question' over in that thread ... only I was assuming (incorrectly) I could use the box wrench on the nut. I was quickly disabused of that notion:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorse View Post
I use the wrench and a rubber mallet after about 3 wacks it spins right off.
Yes. This is what 'most' people do. It's all covered (with videos) in that aforementioned thread for the OP.


Me? I prefer to use the right tools. Here's a picture of my tools:


And, here's a picture of my counterhold tool in action:


Since the tools to work on your BMW are free, I generally buy the right tool for the right job.

However, some people make do with whatever they have handy:


But, for me, I just don't trust myself with a crescent wrench on the pulley or swinging a mallet on the nut as you can see people hit the plastic radiator and busted it open in those threads ...


I suggest the OP simply get this 8-dollar wrench:

Last edited by bluebee; 04-22-2011 at 11:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-25-2011, 07:33 PM
Melrose Melrose is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Lenexa, KS
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 252
Mein Auto: 540i
You don't need the clutch holder just the wrench. Whack the wrench with the hammer. Remember, It is a left -- hand thread, and it will pop right off. You can get the 32mm Thorsen wrench at BIG LOTS for $4.00
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E39 (1997 - 2003)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms