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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:26 PM
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when does 2011 stop and 2012's roll out?

Looks like BMW has a bunch of 2012 models rolled out already. Has anyone heard when the 2012 F25's will start and 2011's will stop?
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:06 PM
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Looks like BMW has a bunch of 2012 models rolled out already. Has anyone heard when the 2012 F25's will start and 2011's will stop?
been a pretty active topic on lots of boards...bottom line is that nobody really knows...most people are just making sh*t up but nobody really knows. A lot of somewhat "reasonable" speculation suggests that it could be late fall (november) or possibly right up to the new year.

My opinion is off the late fall mindset
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:11 PM
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Earliest would be July production since June are still 2011s. So earlier arrival to dealer would be ~August, latest would be likely January. So most likely Q4
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:23 PM
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Earliest would be July production since June are still 2011s. So earlier arrival to dealer would be ~August, latest would be likely January. So most likely Q4
Yea I think you are right (again just in my opinion). The one reason I think that the 2012s will be showing up later rather than sooner is b/c vehicles for europe (which have been ordered now) are scheduled to ship out in the august timeframe...now I know they are on a different schedule than we are, but at some point they have to close the gap b/c if anything changes globally for 2012, they can't be making 2011 models in july for europe and 2012 models in july for the USA.

I honestly think that the 2011 model production will run through the beginning of Q4...if I was betting, you'll see september or october production start 2012 models with the vehicles showing up sometime in decmber.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:53 PM
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I expect 2012 production to be the same as 2011, if there are any differences in spec it'll be pure marketing and trivial stuff. IMHO....
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:31 PM
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I expect 2012 production to be the same as 2011, if there are any differences in spec it'll be pure marketing and trivial stuff. IMHO....
Yep absolutely....could not agree more. It think it'll be more of "process" than anythign else with BMW manufacturing wanting all 11's or all 12's (globally) rolling off the line at the same time, or within a reasonable time apart. I know there are a lot of folks hoping for (expecting) significant changes for 2012 but why would BMW do that when this model is doing so well.

The ONLY thing I can reasonably see them doing that has some credible evidence behind it is dropping the base 28i out of the lineup and replacing it with the 4 cyl/turbo that showed up at the NYC auto show. However...I would think that's a mid-cycle refresh thing...maybe 2013
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:09 PM
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I'd also expect Q4 of 2011, definitely not something in the immediate future.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:27 AM
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I expect 2012 production to be the same as 2011, if there are any differences in spec it'll be pure marketing and trivial stuff. IMHO....
Actually, I'm waiting for the 2012 line-up in hopes of BMW dropping a diesel engine in the X3 mix. I would LOVE to see the 20d in the US market, but with all the noise about engine certification, my money is on the 35d.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:02 AM
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Actually, I'm waiting for the 2012 line-up in hopes of BMW dropping a diesel engine in the X3 mix. I would LOVE to see the 20d in the US market, but with all the noise about engine certification, my money is on the 35d.
now that would be awesome.....My money is on them dropping the 28 for the 4 cly turbo. If they do the 20d then they have to do a stick shift for US as well...or maybe not...God knows right!!
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:14 AM
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minor, minor changes, possible in packages - BMW assist- decoupled from Nav is my guess...
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:42 PM
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any chance they will split the exhaust in a 2012.

Any chance they would split the exhaust in a 2012?
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:47 PM
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no - the major components of this truck won't be touched for 2 -3 years....
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The late 2011 production/model year 2012 will probably see a price increase, combining packages and/or making DHP a Priority 1 option, and reducing the number of permutations available. That's the trend thesedays with all carmakers for the sake of sales and dealer ordering simplicity. I don't forsee a diesel coming out for 2012 and the MT days are definitely over.

Folks need to wisen up and quit the pipe dreams. Automakers structure their pricing schemes and drivetrain choices to cater to the majority of Americans and their expectations/tastes in luxury cars.

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now that would be awesome.....My money is on them dropping the 28 for the 4 cly turbo. If they do the 20d then they have to do a stick shift for US as well...or maybe not...God knows right!!
You read my mind! Dream X3 would be the 20d manual... I don't see it happening, but I would settle for an automatic 35d with the 8 speed trany.

A man can dream, can't he?
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Old 05-14-2011, 06:43 PM
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My money would be on very few changes.

Strategically the model is selling well, there is no shortage of buyers and why fix it if it ain't broke.

From an operational side, why introduce more options to the factory when they already have a ton of global options they need to control. Ostensibly, introducing the diesel would be easy, but 20d or 30d are not ceretified and 35d IMHO would be vetoed by their marketing (at this time).

Finally from a marketing standpoint, I expect them to make symbolic changes but keep the basics intact. Once the demand starts softening, you'll see the 4 cylinder turbo, a diesel and a hybrid. I would say these would be phased in over 2013 and 2014.
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My money would be on very few changes.

Strategically the model is selling well, there is no shortage of buyers and why fix it if it ain't broke.

From an operational side, why introduce more options to the factory when they already have a ton of global options they need to control. Ostensibly, introducing the diesel would be easy, but 20d or 30d are not ceretified and 35d IMHO would be vetoed by their marketing (at this time).

Finally from a marketing standpoint, I expect them to make symbolic changes but keep the basics intact. Once the demand starts softening, you'll see the 4 cylinder turbo, a diesel and a hybrid. I would say these would be phased in over 2013 and 2014.
+1...I think all of that is 100% spot on...even the years.
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The late 2011 production/model year 2012 will probably see a price increase, combining packages and/or making DHP a Priority 1 option, and reducing the number of permutations available. That's the trend thesedays with all carmakers for the sake of sales and dealer ordering simplicity. I don't forsee a diesel coming out for 2012 and the MT days are definitely over.

Folks need to wisen up and quit the pipe dreams. Automakers structure their pricing schemes and drivetrain choices to cater to the majority of Americans and their expectations/tastes in luxury cars.
They keep on making it easier to be objective and hold onto my current X3. At least there aren't the bugs that zapped all the early owners of the 07 era.
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You read my mind! Dream X3 would be the 20d manual... I don't see it happening, but I would settle for an automatic 35d with the 8 speed trany.

A man can dream, can't he?
Mercedes has announced a Diesel version of the GLK for the US market next year (2012). It will be a 2.2 liter four cylinder. European versions produce about 200 hp. There are not many details on the US versions yet.

We will see if BMW responds to the Mercedes competition.

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They keep on making it easier to be objective and hold onto my current X3. At least there aren't the bugs that zapped all the early owners of the 07 era.
I really like my 6-speed manual. For that reason I am reluctant to give up my E83.

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Mercedes has announced a Diesel version of the GLK for the US market next year (2012). It will be a 2.2 liter four cylinder. European versions produce about 200 hp. There are not many details on the US versions yet.

We will see if BMW responds to the Mercedes competition.

Since marketing decisions are determined by dealer feedback and sales numbers (and not forum posts), we should all go buy the diesel GLK and forthcoming Audi diesels and desert BMW. Then BMW NA would realise the error of their ways after we've put our money elsewhere.
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