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Old 05-27-2010, 07:37 AM
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91 850 - Terminology question - Lights

Hello:

I can't find a manual for a 1991 BMW 850i, and the question is so simple that I don't want to spend money / time on buying one on-line.

The question is: Looking at the front of the vehicle, there are several sets of lights. There are the top lights, under the flip-up panels. The next set of lights, below the flip-ups, have a pair of rectangular lights that are on the outside, emitting "white" light.

What does the manual call these lower, outside lights? "Daylight running lights?" "Fog Lights?" "Other?"

It's not my car -- I need to know the terminology vis a vis interpretation of a driving law.

Thanks.

Mike
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:29 PM
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The bumper lights are known as FTP's (Flash-to-Pass). They are NOT fog lights. Depending on which country version the car is "coded" for, you will have Daytime Running Lights or not. The FTP (BMW calls it an illumination tape) is basically the same for all cars.

The Flip-up lights are arranged as follows: furthest outnboard lights are low-beam,; the middle light is the fog-light and the furthest inboard is the high-beam.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:14 PM
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:01 PM
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EML and Stealer

My '93 850ci is a SoCal car so I rarely need the heat blowing, but I would like to find out if the heater core is malfunctioning or if it could be another electrical issue.

When I say "another electrical issue" it is because I wresteled with EML issues for months, until I finally broke down and took the E31 to the Stealer. The technician was a master electical troubleshooter, and discovered a hose clamp had rubbed the wires from the engine compartment going into the instrument panel. The EML display light had a short that caused the car to experience perpetual (EML, Trans Prgm Failure, Check Engine...and other fun electrical gremlins).

The Stealer charged me $800 for the troubleshooting, but it was worth every penny. My independent guys were chasing their tails. I had even bought a spare EML ($100), and DK motors (2 for $200). I swapped out the DKs and the EML module, and that never helped.

When all else fails sometimes the Stealer with the factory diagnostic computer is the only way to go with the E31. Sorry for the electrical rant, but any thoughts on the no heater issue would be appreciated.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:50 PM
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...When all else fails sometimes the Stealer with the factory diagnostic computer is the only way to go with the E31...
Exactly the reason why I have my own BMW Diagnostic Computer setup - saves alot of second guessing.
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