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E36/7 Z3 (1996-2002)
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:04 PM
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My new (slightly used) Z3M

Picked up a 2000 Z3M last sunday, I still need to do a real good wash on it but figured I would post a few pictures of it. Got it with just over 40,000 miles on it, so I should be able to get some good fun out of it.
Still deciding what all modes I am going to make, am leaning toward a shark chip, exhaust and then better suspension, just have not decided what all as of yet.
Completed the glove box repair already which came out great. Used the kit and instructions from this site..
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:26 AM
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Chips don't give you that much on these cars. But if you want to do it, I have an unused Shark Injector for a 2000 M. Make me an offer.

Exhausts sound better, but again, not huge performance gains.

IMO, the best suspension out there is the TC Kline setup.

Check the trunk floor for pulled spot welds.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:22 AM
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I was going to suggest the Forbes subframe modification as your first and most important improvement if it hasn't been done.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:35 AM
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I checked the sub frame and it is still intact which surprised me, I may go ahead and do the Forbes mod just to get it out of the way. I know that no one engine mod will give and major gains, but I am looking at some small ones to at least add up to something.
I will look at the TC Kline stuff. Any ideas of the best place to look for the basic stuff such as a rear view mirror - mine has the rainbow affect going on and also would like a cup holder for my center console.

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Old 06-11-2011, 08:53 AM
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Congrats on the purchase...looks like it is real nice shape!
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:51 AM
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I checked the sub frame and it is still intact which surprised me, I may go ahead and do the Forbes mod just to get it out of the way. I know that no one engine mod will give and major gains, but I am looking at some small ones to at least add up to something.
I will look at the TC Kline stuff. Any ideas of the best place to look for the basic stuff such as a rear view mirror - mine has the rainbow affect going on and also would like a cup holder for my center console.

Thanks for any and all help
Most people feel the small engine mods add up to nothing. Unless you can go for super/turbo charging, I'd just skip (or do last) the engine mods.

The suspension mods delivery huge improvements. I'd strongly recommend the TC Klines.

"rainbow affect" is a new description to me. The autodimming mirrors are notorious for leaking corrosive fluid on the interior. Here's the best fix -
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=518597. Also, any Z3 mirror can be used as a replacement. Don't wait around on this.
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:20 PM
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Thanks, I see it as rainbow with a slight color blind problem, but it got the point across. Thanks for the link, I will give them a call and see what we can do.
Thanks for all the tips, guess it is time to start researching TC Klines.
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:59 AM
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The problem with the OBDII engine management, is to get real gains, you have to do the cams. The Turner Motor Sport Stage 4 kit gives youa bout half the HP gain of the supercharger, at less than half the price. But still not cheap. We only did it since Rnady have the head off and cams out and the exhuast cam needed replacing.

Like I said, if you want to do the Shark Injector, I have one that i bought to do out M Roadster, but I never used it. And now, the Stage 4 kit came with its own software.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:44 PM
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:38 PM
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Thanks Mike, it does appear they have stuff that I am looking for..
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:05 PM
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Oops, forgot that part.

LeatherZ has great stuff, and they are great guys also.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:11 PM
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I have a 2000 M Roadster that I bought 5 years ago with 38,000 mi and now have 49,000 driving it on "Sunny Sundays"

+1 on suspension. I installed the TCKline Single Ajustable system and it transformed the car, best bang for the buck hands down. I know there are other suspensions out there, but I am thrilled with the TCKline.

While it is clear that nothing short of turbo or supercharging will be dramatic, I am very pleased with having done the Dinan Chip, Intake , and throttle body. To me, stock it felt like it ran out of breath as you got above 6000 RPM and wanted to shift short of the redline. It now feels fine and strong right up to the new 7000 RPM redline. Dinan is perhaps over priced but I did not want to run afoul of CA smog laws.

The car came with the stock (undoubtedly second set) of Continental Tires. I replaced them with Michelin PS2's and the difference was huge-- especially coupled with the TCKline suspension. I know the Michelins are pricey, and there are other very good extreme summer type tires at better prices, the point being, good sticky tires help. I dont drive in the rain with the car, and it doesnt get cold in los angeles so how a tire performs in those conditions is not an issue for me.

I also went to lighter wheels and (the PS2's are relatively light too) and feel the difference the lower unsprung weight makes as well-- but this is probably not meaningful to most.

I love the way the car drives and handles. It makes me smile just thinking about it.

So the most important thing is drive it ! have fun !

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:32 PM
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William, Thanks for the info. I actually came down to your area to pick up this car. I have been pricing out the TC Kline and will most likely go in that direction. I like the Dinan but feel it is over priced, i am looking at a CAI from eurosport and a shark reprogram, I can always shift back for smog and then put everything back on after. Tires that are on mine are not the best, but the rears are new, so as soon as I wear out the fronts, I will replace with a good set- maybe the michhelins, tire rack has them at not to bad of a price. Were did you get your suspension from?
This will be a weekend mainly driver, wife has her big 550I and company mmakes me drive something more "practicle"
I just ran up this last weekend into the Sierra's so I could do some good twisties, car was awesome and ran great the entire time. Have you had to make repairs to your diff mount yet?
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:14 PM
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:19 PM
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I purchased the suspension directly from TCKline. I actually had two conversations with TC Kline himself about it and the spring rates, anti-roll bars and subframe re-inforcement.

I had it shipped to the independent BMW specialist that maintains my car and he installed it along with StopTech cross drilled rotors , stainless brake lines, and higher performance, less dust pads (not dustless).

I know that most run higher rates but TC told me that for a primarily street driven car the 400lb front and rear was the thing to do. I followed his advice and have been happy.

My subframe is perfect, no signs of any damage. I asked TC about re-inforcing as preventive measure and he said " Are you planning on sliding into any curbs?, if it isn't broken, dont' fix it"

TC also told me that for my purposes that stiffer anti-roll bars absolutely were not necessary and should not be done. Saying that racers even remove them in some cases with competition suspension set-ups.

I know there are many differing opinions on some of these things, and TC may not be infallible, but he certainly has a lot of experience and I was impressed by his willingness to spend 15 min on the phone with a complete stranger.

When all the work was done my mechanic, who has been doing this for 30+ years, set it all up and after a canyon test drive pronounced it the best handling roadster he had ever driven--- which is not saying there are lots out there as good or better, but that it is very nice.

And as many others have said in threads about these suspensions, in normal driving it is more comfortable and better feeling than the stock suspension.

Enjoy your car, you have a winner !!
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Racers remove the REAR sway bars, but also run very high rear spring rates.

For BMW handling, a stiffer front bar helps a LOT.
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