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Old 04-11-2009, 05:12 PM
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10w-60 (Lubro Molly)

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Old 04-15-2009, 05:20 PM
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The ONLY authorized oil is the Castrol 10W-60. Why would you want to use anything else?
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:23 PM
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use castrol edge sport 10 w 60...it works gr8 4 me....
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:48 AM
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Ive used it... LM is also authorized oil by BMW AUDI VW PORSCHE etc etc

rev feels smoother than TWS
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:24 PM
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The ONLY authorized oil is the Castrol 10W-60. Why would you want to use anything else?
Old thread... but I'd like to know where does it state that Castrol TWS 10W60 is the ONLY authrized oil.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:16 PM
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:25 AM
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OK...so I buy the kit and do my own oil change. How do I reset the "Oil" usage meter? Thanks..Mike
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Old 05-21-2011, 05:35 AM
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Old 05-21-2011, 04:57 PM
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Thanks Pinecone man

Thanks for the tip to the reset forum. Dealer wants $165 to change oil. Half that sounds twiuce as good. Mike E.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:40 PM
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Yep i use lubro moly 10w 60. Good oil im happy with it, change it every 5k. Its made in Germany so you cant really argue with that... Shame on those who think any other oil besides castrol is bad. Stupid people overpaying for oil at the dealership, have fun!
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:42 PM
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The dealers suck, only go if you have a warranty besides that i id rather shoot myself in the foot
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:59 PM
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If you can find an independent mechanic that has experience with M3's and is BMW certified, then by all means use em. I've had great experiences with the dealer that I use. I for one will only use what BMW recommends for my engine.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:55 PM
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I just put Redline 10w-60 in my MRoadster (just out of warranty).... and it runs really nice....
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BMW has a marketing agreement with Castrol in the US to specify the use of Castrol oils in their cars. It is 100% pure marketing. Determine the BMW specification and follow that if you are concerned about only using BMW approved oils. For most E46s, BMW LL01 is the spec; for M3s I am not sure. Note that LL04 does NOT supersede LL01.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:21 AM
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And most RedLine oils do not meet BMW specs. Strange, they say they meet the standards, but they aren't willing to test to them.

As for Castrol versus others, the question is still why not use Castrol TWS 10W-60?
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:02 PM
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It's incorrect to say they don't test to the standards associated with BMW's requirements for the S54 engine. Perhaps you meant to say they won't pay BMW to test/approve their oil and you would be correct. That doesn't mean LM 10W-60 doesn't meet the BMW standard.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:01 PM
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The standard is more specifically related to the extended change intervals than anything, though their viscosity specifications are much narrower than SAE.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:25 AM
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It's incorrect to say they don't test to the standards associated with BMW's requirements for the S54 engine. Perhaps you meant to say they won't pay BMW to test/approve their oil and you would be correct. That doesn't mean LM 10W-60 doesn't meet the BMW standard.
I was talking about RedLine and the ACEA standards. BMW says must meet A3/B3 (IIRC), but RedLine is only A2/B2. And they say it is just as good, but if it is, why not do the testing.

WRT LM, if it isn't tested and certified to the standards, it may well meet them, and it may not. So what is the benifit of using it?
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Old 07-06-2011, 11:47 AM
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LubroMoly is $46 a gallon before shipping. RedLine is $43 a gallon if you can find a brick and mortar. Castrol is $11 a quart and if I buy a case it is pushing $10 a quart. At the convience of my BMW dealer. Maybe I'm missing something here. I mean, I run petro-oil in everything I own except the Bimmers. That would be boats, crotch rockets, muscle cars...etc. And $2 a quart is the norm. Hundreds of thousands of miles. Also, I just went and bought a couple of cases of 100 watt incandescent light bulbs. And I don't buy bottled water. And I don't own a cell phone. You people just like to blow money. The Germans invented synthetic oil. Peto-oil was not an easy commodity for them to acquire and when subjected to the frigid conditions of the Russian front, petro-oil did not perform favorably. So synthetic oil has it's place in the world. But in everyday driving under normal conditions it is overkill. Wasted money. So much of todays marketing is geared to scare people into thinking they must purchase the new technology...just for the sake of it being new technology. Which is all a result of no one being able to think for themselves.
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:00 AM
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Modern synthetic oils are not about lack of petro that drove the Germans to develop synthetic lubricants.

Modern synthetic oils are where they decide what parts of the oil are actually doing the work, and maximize the % of these by synthesizing them. This results in reduced friction and longer usable life.

So by using synthetic oils, I can run extended drain intervals (about 3 fold), and get better gas mileage (reduced friction). So I change myoil once, for every 3 times you change the oil with conventional (and don't forget the 2 extra filters). So 11 oil changes over 100,000 miles versus 33. 6 quarts of oils per change that is $660 for synthetic versus $396. But also filter costs, at $10 per filter, $110 versus $330. So total cost $770 versus $726. Not to mention the time, even at 20 minutes to do the change, you are spending an extra 7 hours 40 minutes. How much do you make per hours? At only $10 per hours, that adds $77 additional for conventional over synthetic.

I did extensive note taking of fuel consumption back when making the switch from conventional to all synthetic oil. I got a consistant 1.5 - 2 MPG increase. So for a vehicle that gets 20 MPG over 100,000 miles, that is a savings of 454 gallons of fuel. Or about $1800 over that 100,000 miles.

The reduced friction also means less wear on the engine. I have gotten 300,000 miles out of an engine run on full synthetic oils. I have never had an engine failure on an engine using full synthetic oils. I have had turned rod bearings on two engines running conventional oils.

The cost of the oil is not the only thing.
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