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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 07-16-2011, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dunccfp View Post
I had a new download last week and my display is blank also when I start the car.

It appears that one of the displays is for the nav signals etc. When the nav is off that display is blank. Apparently, the new software defaults to that screen whe the car is started. By unchecking Nav in the display info page it no longer defaults to this blank display. I dont use my nav that often, but when I do I'll have to recheck it. This should not happen but you never know. Maybe the same German who decided that runflats are a panacea also decided that we have to have that display up first every fookin time....
It's preferable to what I personally had before.....the Nav display on the small screen would never leave. I woudl press the button to go away and it would come back 10 seconds later. Over and over and over again.

Now at least the Nav display goes away when I press the button, comes back when it's needed and goes away again until the next turn.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by romeofrosty View Post
"Nit-picking"? Wanting a new car with less than 2,000 miles to work as it should is not nit-picking. These systems should work properly. Period. We're not talking about minor subjective interior flaws, or complaining about one headlight being 1/8 of an inch higher than the other, etc.
These systems should, using the phrase BMW likes to espouse, "operate as designed".
When I wrote that I didn't mean you specifically with "nit picking". I mean it's all over the forums. Small things that don't amount to a lot at times. Granted they shouldn't occur, but some "problems" are somewhat liveable, IMO. Sometimes it's worse to keep harping on a dealer to fix something because they'll tear it apart and make things worse. My nav arrow comes back 1 time after I arrive at my destination even though I disengaged navigation ahead of time. Is this perfect? No, but it isn't killing me. I'm not going to mention it to the dealer -- I don't want a software upgrade that will probably make things worse.

I am sorry that you are having the issues with the new car, I know it can be frustrating. I hope they work it out for you. BMW obviously sent out a bad fix, now they'll have to get another fix out. The tip-in problem you first mentioned should go away after a couple hundered miles, as it did for me and many other F10 owners. Let the car settle in and see what happens -- as I said, I would be most concerned about the vibration you mentioned.
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Old 07-17-2011, 05:50 AM
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I agree with markl53's comments about nitpicking. Cars are complex machines that integrate many systems and subsystems, and the F10 is more complex than most, being on the cutting edge of technological applications, so minor issues are to be expected. Can anyone name a car that is "perfect", that is free of even minor issues? Not so for cars at any price, now or in the history of the automobile I bet.

While many complaints by customers (and posters) are legitimate, I find that many other issues that we complain about are just a matter of us, the drivers, learning to properly use and adapt to the characteristics of the car we drive. An example: while my 550i has had no major hesitation issues when accelerating, it was a little hesitant at first. Now, after the car has "learned" to respond to my driving style, which by the way is not consistent as I sometimes drive rather aggressively and sometimes rather gently, I have also learned to apply proper pressure to the throttle and make use of the paddles and of the comfort-to-sport button to avoid hesitation under any driving situation. I have also learned to feel where the turbos kick in, so that I can accelerate hard linearly but very fast.

I find that driving the F10 is a very involving experience, where I make use of the adaptability the car offers to driving conditions and styles. I change suspension settings when going from a smooth road surface to a rough one and back again when the road surface changes. I switch the auto-hold on and off several times during my commute as I feel more comfortable driving at that particular moment. I turn on the adaptive cruise on and off, again, just to suit my driving mood at the time. I change the settings on the equalizer to get the best sound from the type of music I am listening to at the moment, instead of permanently leaving a setting that is acceptable for all music. So yes, I am very involved with the car whenever I drive it, and I love it. The car, in turn, responds to my every whim. To conclude, such level of involvement with the car allows me to adapt to the vehicle characteristics of the vehicle and eliminate most of the minor annoyances that people complain about, while raising my level of enjoyment tenfold.
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