Worn out buttons, WTF?

To the OP: I can wholeheartedly understand how even the tiniest things can interfere with happiness...do whatever would make you happy!

My mother once had a house custom-built and for almost a year after it was finished she would have contractors in and out repairing tiny flaws...2 years later she sold it and had another built the way she wanted it.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

I have multiple MF towels in the car. I have a tire gauge,inflator,sealant,Quick detailer in the trunk. The stupid thing is that I'm neurotic enough, that I will probably end up pressing the edge of the button as not to mess up the little fan symbol, but I really shouldn't have to.

Good self-diagnosis.

Originally Posted by PsychDoc1

As they say in Brooklyn, fuggedaboudit.

We don't say that even while joking in Texas...

Originally Posted by Leslierc

To the OP: I can wholeheartedly understand how even the tiniest things can interfere with happiness...do whatever would make you happy!

My mother once had a house custom-built and for almost a year after it was finished she would have contractors in and out repairing tiny flaws...2 years later she sold it and had another built the way she wanted it.

I've had several small things replaced on the car that individually are no big deal, but collectively cause me to question the long term reliability of this car. If BMW were to take this car back, I'm not sure I'd get another one.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

I've had several small things replaced on the car that individually are no big deal, but collectively cause me to question the long term reliability of this car. If BMW were to take this car back, I'm not sure I'd get another one.

Imagine this was possible, what would you get? would it still be bmw? or else?

Originally Posted by bmw_enthusiasm

Imagine this was possible, what would you get? would it still be bmw? or else?

Honestly, not sure. Mercedes CLS, but it's too expensive. Don't really like the looks of the E Class, but I'd probably go back to a Mercedes.

How about the 6 - quality wise would you look at it?
the quality of materials seems superior on the 6...(well...at 90 K of course..)
disregard the fact that is a coupe.

The 6 will actually be more expensive than the CLS I believe, and as nice as it is, sitting inside it, I actually preferred the 5's interior design, and I didn't find the materials to be superior in the 6 really. IMO the 6 even beats the CLS in "rip-off" factor, considering it's a two door 5-Series with identical drivetrain and tech, etc.

Originally Posted by K-A

IMO the 6 even beats the CLS in "rip-off" factor, considering it's a two door 5-Series with identical drivetrain and tech, etc.

I Agree, I never actually understand the 6 series philosophy of pricing,
but if you pay close attention the materials are better starting from the seats that have side bolsters and the back of your headrest is so soft and seamless when you tilt it to wrap around your head comparing with the fake internal plastic sensation of the current F10's seats...
Then there is the ceramic buttons that now will be an option in 2012 F10's

Originally Posted by TJPark01

The button I push the most is probably the small fan button to turn off the HVAC, when I start the car. Guess what, the small fan icon, it peeled off. ?

Having mention the ceramic, do you people know if the ceramic package includes
all buttons and controls to be ceramic? or its just the i- drive knobs and the shifter thats ceramic?
I mean hopefully ceramic wouldn't wear off...for a $600 premium...(when you have already
paid thousands)

Originally Posted by bmw_enthusiasm

Having mention the ceramic, do you people know if the ceramic package includes
all buttons and controls to be ceramic? or its just the i- drive knobs and the shifter thats ceramic?
I mean hopefully ceramic wouldn't wear off...for a $600 premium...(when you have already
paid thousands)

I have the ceramic package. It only gives you ceramic knobs for iDrive and radio / ac controls. It is well worth the extra $ 600 for the quality feel. The push buttons are plain old plastic.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

I've had several small things replaced on the car that individually are no big deal, but collectively cause me to question the long term reliability of this car. If BMW were to take this car back, I'm not sure I'd get another one.

I am interested in knowing what parts that you have replaced. Since October 2010 when I accepted delivery, I have had the NAV screen replaced, one wheel bearing, and two 18 inch tires.

Originally Posted by CRMESQ

one wheel bearing, and two 18 inch tires.

one wheel bearing!! ???

Originally Posted by bmw_enthusiasm

one wheel bearing!! ???

Yes, a wheel bearing on the driver's side front. One day, my F10 started making an odd noise, I brought it in for a check up, and the dealer said that they needed to replace the wheel bearing. I previously started a thread on this to report it to the forum.

Originally Posted by CRMESQ

I am interested in knowing what parts that you have replaced. Since October 2010 when I accepted delivery, I have had the NAV screen replaced, one wheel bearing, and two 18 inch tires.

I don't count the tires, but I had one patched and the tire shop scratched the rim and had to order a new rim, which was fine, but only adds to my frustration.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

I don't count the tires, but I had one patched and the tire shop scratched the rim and had to order a new rim, which was fine, but only adds to my frustration.

I forgot about the rims. I have already had 3 rim repairs. Luckily, I purchased a really good warranty at the time of delivery, which includes rim repair. The rim repairs alone have already covered the cost of the warranty. Why did the rim scratch require a replacement rather than a repair?

Originally Posted by CRMESQ

I forgot about the rims. I have already had 3 rim repairs. Luckily, I purchased a really good warranty at the time of delivery, which includes rim repair. The rim repairs alone have already covered the cost of the warranty. Why did the rim scratch require a replacement rather than a repair?

Because I didn't want it repaired. They fooked it up, so I wanted a brand new wheel. That's why they have insurance. They agreed. It' wasn't a little scratch either it was a major fail...

Your damage is very different than mine. My rims just had some minor scrapes and curb rash. I am not even going to attempt to guess how the service department did that to your rim. Actually, the bigger offense is not the damage but rather it is that they handed your vehicle back to you with that damage.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

Because I didn't want it repaired. They fooked it up, so I wanted a brand new wheel. That's why they have insurance. They agreed. It' wasn't a little scratch either it was a major fail...

Yeah, that looks pretty bad!

Originally Posted by CRMESQ

Your damage is very different than mine. My rims just had some minor scrapes and curb rash. I am not even going to attempt to guess how the service department did that to your rim. Actually, the bigger offense is not the damage but rather it is that they handed your vehicle back to you with that damage.

This was an Indy tire shop. They admitted the mistake immediately and offered to repair it, and I said, nope, get me a new one. You keep that one. They said OK.

Speaking of annoying little issues that could drive some of us crazies crazy. Today I got my plates, and of course, I realize that I put my stickers on the plate that has two razor-blade-like cut marks going through two of the blue numbers.

Friggin' ANNOYING!!!! Haven't had the best luck lately in some areas, need to just suck it up and wait for the big turn-around.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

The button I push the most is probably the small fan button to turn off the HVAC, when I start the car. Guess what, the small fan icon, it peeled off. During lunch I went to BMW of Beverly Hills without an appointment because this seriously pissed me off and it's down the street from me. Do you think they have to:
A - replace the button.
B - take apart the whole console and replace the entire HVAC face plate?

Same thing happened to my small fan button!! ... that really pissed me off.
Those photos look exactly like mine now...

I love my car, but am beginning to question the wisdom of my willingness to be continuously in compromise mode with this car with it's deficiencies: tire debacles, dealer installations of software updates that three days later, prove to be corrupted -- we all know what's on the list, etc. The compromise is that there are so many things I love about the car that I tolerate the flaws. The question is, how long will I be willing to do this?

I'm having these thoughts immediately after taking delivery of a Volvo XC60 for my wife. I never considered a Volvo, and I'm not an SUV or crossover guy at all. However, this car delivers EVERYTHING it promises and is totally competent and pleasant to drive. I'm blown away at how good it is. Time will tell on reliability, but when you have these insane thoughts of asking for regular seat time in your wife's XC60 when your car is an F10, that's a scary thought.

Originally Posted by tdepetra

Time will tell on reliability, but when you have these insane thoughts of asking for regular seat time in your wife's XC60 when your car is an F10, that's a scary thought.

I feel the same way. I have a Hyundai Genesis V8. Every time I get into the car I think, you know what, this is enough car. Not to mention it cost half as much as the 535i

Originally Posted by TJPark01

I feel the same way. I have a Hyundai Genesis V8. Every time I get into the car I think, you know what, this is enough car. Not to mention it cost half as much as the 535i

What kind of mileage do you get with the V8 Genesis?