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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 01-04-2011, 09:42 AM
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A strange 'electric golf cart' like whining noise is coming from the engine in my '11 X5 50i. The engine is a Twin-Scroll Turbo 4.4L V8.

Some patterns I've noticed:
-Doesn't happen when the engine is cold
-Doesn't happen until I really push the engine and then it won't stop for the rest of the day, even if I'm driving slow
-Whine is very noticeable after 2k rpm
-Not noticeable at higher speeds because of noise
-Seems to come from the right side (behind the glove box)
-The whine pitch is dependent on engine speed (rpm), not vehicle speed.

I have an appointment to have it checked out next tuesday. I will tell them that it might be the oil pump per other posts on the website.

Is there any chance that they might tell me it's the turbo?

Has anybody else had this problem and had it fixed or rejected for service?

Great thread! I have the exact same noise. Dealer of course says it's the turbos...
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:12 AM
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BMW is aware of the problem.. I have been told by the dealership that there is a fix in the works.. The general consensus is that it is the oil pump. They do not want to replace with same current production in fear of problem reoccurring. At least that’s what I have been told. I have every reason to believe that BMW is honorable and has its best interest to resolve this issue. We will see.....
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:00 PM
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Speaking of whine, i have been driving around the 328 loaner for the last 3 days, and that thing whines like crazy. Does bmw think that this is ok in what is otherwsie an excellent handling car?
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:12 PM
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Still nothing!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:31 AM
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Angry Engine Whining Noise

I have 2010 X5M with 17,000 miles and am experiencing a whining noise as well. The whining noise is very loud during low-speed operation or when in a lower gear and for some reason while climbing, if that makes sense. Where I live there is a hill, 25% incline, when I begin to climb while in automatic the vehicle downshfits to (2D) and the sound is even louder. During flat surface driving it is very loud when I am in sport mode and at a low gear.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:27 AM
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Yes, that's the noise.
BMW have responded to my repeated complaints and said that they would get the Dealership Service Manager to call me back. However, that was about 4 weeks ago and I have spoken to him before. He told me that BMW wanted to pass on that they considered this whining "golf cart" noise to be normal. A shameful response from an auto company. This will be the first and last BMW that I ever own... I can't stand it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:35 AM
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Yes, that's the noise.
BMW have responded to my repeated complaints and said that they would get the Dealership Service Manager to call me back. However, that was about 4 weeks ago and I have spoken to him before. He told me that BMW wanted to pass on that they considered this whining "golf cart" noise to be normal. A shameful response from an auto company. This will be the first and last BMW that I ever own... I can't stand it.
no whine on my car but it sucks up oil like a

Maybe I am deaf, but mine sounds ok? has a growl that keeps getting louder. Will look out for that sound though.

EDIT: ya it does have that "whine" but it does not bother me.
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:54 PM
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Hi, first time posting. Not sure if i'm comparing apples to oranges (e53 vs e70), but I had the dreaded whinning/golf cart noise on my 04 4.4i. After looking through a bunch of forums, I was convinced that it was the alternator so I took it into an indy bmw specialist intending on replacing the alternator. After about 3 hours, I got a call from the mechanic telling me that he had fixed the issue. Turns out, the noise was coming from the deflector pulley which dries out over time. Saved a few hundred $ and the noise is gone! Hope this helps some of you.
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Old 08-20-2011, 03:55 PM
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Finaly new oil pump!!!!! Whining is gone!!! My ride sounds like it should…
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:45 PM
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So let me understand..it took BMW over 8 months to fix your whining oil pump? Skweaky Wheel (oil pump) gets the grease eventually.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:34 AM
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Yes that is the case… 8 months… Only after cornering my service rep and mechanic and making them acknowledge that there was a significant whining noise, and telling the sales manager that after 4 BMW purchases this would be my last, the powers that be decided to fix my issues.. I must thank all contributors on this board. If not for your input and information I would still be WHINING DOWN THE ROAD!!!
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:41 AM
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This just helps my case that BMW does'nt give a crap about its customers. How many excuses can they come up with about the many problems with their automobiles. I quess as long as its die hard customers keep drinking that BMW magic juice, you know you are driving the Ultimate Driving Machine they will continue the poor service they are giving. When I buy a car I also buy the company. My 1year with my X5 M-Sport has been the worst experience I have ever had with a company. First and Last
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:41 AM
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Another explanation

My dealer telling me I can't rely on these forums. Says the problem is actually with the deflector pulley. Absolutely positive. Unfortunately, I have to wait until mid next week to find out. They have to order the part. Will let you know.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:02 PM
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thanks Billyraymallard. It will be very interesting to see if the deflector pulley repair works. I now have about 23,000 miles on my X5-50i and am still living with the annoying whine. The Dealer has successfully worn me down to the point where I cannot waste any more time arguing with them because they are a moving target. They don't follow up on their promises and are shameless. I've tried other Dealers too and they all stonewall me on this issue.
I'd love to solve the whining problem and hope that you have discovered the real cause. Good luck.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:30 PM
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My dealer telling me I can't rely on these forums. Says the problem is actually with the deflector pulley. Absolutely positive. Unfortunately, I have to wait until mid next week to find out. They have to order the part. Will let you know.
Interesting point you bring up.

Dealers DO get VERY defensive and resistive when people come in with "forum print outs" in their hands....and many times rightfully so...BUT.... some TECHNICIANS will admit that often times 'the forums' can pick up on issues well before BMW takes actions.... I had a mechanic shake his head ruefully and say "You guys get this stuff before BMW tells us". (This was the 2009/2010 Diesel Intercooler plausibility fault...I told him is was a sensor and a reporgram, PUMA said "we've never seen this and there is no action recommended'...he read the posts, convinced PUMA to let him do it, and 2 months later BMW issues a recall to....ta da "Change the sensor and reprogram"...so)

The trick is striking a balance, between "hey, I know you guys know what you are doing but read this, there may be an issue here" and "you people are morons, do what this forum says"... and of course, Service Advisors can be pretty imperious- it depends a lot on your relationship, how they view your competence, and how you 'pitch' your ideas, etc

In any event, you've made your point- if he is right, then great...if it turns out you were right you really need to pull him up short and point this out. He cannot reject valid hypothesis' just because someone gets it on the internet....

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Old 08-05-2012, 11:05 AM
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I bought a 2011 x5 5.0i from the dealership in early July with 900 miles on it. About 500 miles later I began noticing this "whirring" sound that seems to emit from the glovebox area. Initially I thought it was a failing hard drive for the nav system but then came upon this thread. The sound does not come on initially when I start the car, but rather soon after I start driving it. It stays on independent of whether or not the a/c is on or off. It sounds a bit like a muted dustbuster vacuum, does not seems to get worse or better depending on engine rpm, is present at idle, and once it comes on does not shut off. I went for a drive with the mechanic and he acknowledged "what is that, it seems awful loud" but denied it could be the hard drive as he says it is located in the center console. Stated it may be something with the climate control system.

Anyhow, after discovering this thread I have been harping on the dealership to fix the oil pump. The head of service is now denying that there is any sound despite the fact that his employee acknowledged it when I drove with him as described above. They keep telling me to come and pick up the car, but I am refusing to do so until they fix the oil pump. The sound is annoying and unacceptable for a car of this caliber, IMO. However, not only has the head of service refused to acknowledge the noise, it does not appear that he has put any effort into identifying its source despite me supplying him with links to this thread and others on Edmunds.com describing what appears to be an identical problem.

I have brought this to the attention to the manager of the dealership and he is going to look into it on Monday, assuring me that he will have it taken care of. Nevertheless, I will refuse to pickup the car until they resolve this problem. It has now been at the dealership for over 10 days. I would appreciate some input from those who have dealt with this issue. Thanks.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:02 AM
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Ask about the deflector pulley. My dealer swore that was it.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:05 PM
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did they fix it? my dealership continues to refuse to do anything and they are now not even acknowledging that there is a sound.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:58 PM
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Went to the dealership today and drove the car. Fan sound from glove box was not there today after a 20 minute drive. Mechanic said it may be the e-box fan cooling the DME unit when the ambient temperature is high. Agreed to replace it. Anybody else here notice the ebox fan coming on when it's hot out?
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:26 PM
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Ask about the deflector pulley. My dealer swore that was it.
Can we have an update? Was it the deflector pulley?

I think I pinpointed the noise to either the alternator or the pulley immediately below it.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:58 AM
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Amazing, isn't it? I now have 45,000 miles on my X5 50i and it still whines at low speed and when revved in N at standstill. The noise is not heard at higher speeds but creeping around at 5 to 10 mph the sound is embarrasing for a high end car. I wouldn't even expect it from an old low end car! However, the Dealer refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem although I have had their mechanics agree that there is a noise. To say that I'm frustrated is an understatement. I still love the overall package and the enhanced performance since I added the Dinan Stage 2, 480 lb-ft at the wheels on a Mustang dyno. An E63 AMG only pulled a car length on me by 50 mph at 3 traffic light drags last week, after 50mph he pulled away of course but not by much. In the wet I would have had him..............
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:16 AM
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Lotta postings on this. Including a YouTube viddy w sound. Oil pump. I went in well armed w info and got sorted under warranty. Well known issue.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:33 AM
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Thanks. You mind telling me what supporting info you had? My Dealers tend to discount any diagnosis obtained from Forums. Tech Bulletins or part numbers are more likely to get them to take notice. thanks
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:31 PM
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Search x5 and golf cart noise in this forum, in YouTube and on google. You will find pics of service orders describing the problem in beemmereze. The YouTube viddy confirmed it for me. Exactly the same disgusting noise I used to have.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:36 AM
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Thanks, I will check these out
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