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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 11-29-2011, 08:18 AM
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Brake Fluid Service

I had service light on a few weeks ago. The detail was for brake fluid service. I took it in for service last week and invoice shown 'performed brake flush'. Three days later, the service light was on again and it's still for brake fluid service. SA asked me to bring it back. Just want to see if anyone experienced same thing. Thanks

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Old 11-29-2011, 10:19 AM
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They probably forgot to reset the service interval for the brake flush on the computer.

Although how can you trust them to say "oh, yeah, we did the brake flush".

Did your invoice list part numbers for brake fluid? Actually list "X bottles of BMW fliuid, P/N xx-xx-x-xxx-xxx"???
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:33 AM
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They probably forgot to reset the service interval for the brake flush on the computer.

Although how can you trust them to say "oh, yeah, we did the brake flush".

Did your invoice list part numbers for brake fluid? Actually list "X bottles of BMW fliuid, P/N xx-xx-x-xxx-xxx"???
It has ...
0000618 BRAKE FLUID FLUSH
113365 WM 0.06
2 81-22-0-142-156 BRAKE FLUID:832560
FC: 34000077MP

I hope they just forgot to reset the computer.
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:27 PM
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How much the brake fluid service cost because my light came up too
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:12 AM
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I am also curious what they are charging for this?
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Old 12-05-2014, 01:00 PM
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I was quoted for like almost $300 for this job.

Ended doing it myself. Bought fluid from dealer and Motive Power Bleeder from amazon for $50.
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Old 12-05-2014, 03:49 PM
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I was quoted for like almost $300 for this job.

Ended doing it myself. Bought fluid from dealer and Motive Power Bleeder from amazon for $50.
The only way to know it was done - correctly.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:03 PM
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I was quoted for like almost $300 for this job.

Ended doing it myself. Bought fluid from dealer and Motive Power Bleeder from amazon for $50.
$300 is revolting. Probably included "Courtesy Safety Inspection" that would have yielded $5,000 worth of imaginary leaks and worn out components. Glad you DIY'd it.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:07 PM
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There is a cover over my Brake fluid reservoir. Is it hard to do I have a 2012 BMW X5
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:32 PM
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With all the cars I've owned over the years I never noticed the "Brake Fluid Service" until I started buying BMW's

Is this common with other MFGRs as well?

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Old 12-06-2014, 12:41 PM
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No it's not hard to do. Cover just lifts up. Google BMW brake fluid change, there have to be dozens of videos. Bavauto.com or BMWDIY.com probably have one as well. Other than the cover it's the same procedure for any BMW. If you do not know what you are doing then find yourself a reputable independent BMW specialist. you will need one. This type of job a relatively cheap way to gauge your comfort level with a new to you shop. Fluid should be $20 or less and labor should be under an hour. Labor rate will vary based on where you live, just like with any service (it costs more to hire a gardener / roofer / plumber in San Francisco CA than in Royal Oak MI and same applies for auto care - I've lived in both places so I'm not picking on anyone, it's a simple fact.)

Regardless of where you live the dealer is your most expensive option. If you value the convenience factor and availability of a new BMW as a loaner and the cost premium does not bother you, then the dealer is fine. Otherwise cut that cord once the warranty ends.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:54 PM
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With all the cars I've owned over the years I never noticed the "Brake Fluid Service" until I started buying BMW's

Is this common with other MFGRs as well?
Brake fluid is hygroscopic - meaning it attracts moisture. Given the heat generated by friction of brake components, moisture is a bad deal because in spirited driving conditions your old brake fluid can boil and you no longer have brakes. Most people who take their cars to the track will change the fluid just before a track session for this reason.
Additionally, moisture causes rust. Even if you do not do hot laps with your X5 on the weekends you don't want rust in your master cylinder or calipers as it will cause early failure. This is why BMW recommends it at 2 year intervals regardless of miles (used to be once a year in the old days).

I am fairly sure other manufacturers recommend it, but not as frequently. It may be bundled into the 30 or 60k service. If it was never changed, older cars get new fluid during major brake refresh that includes new master cylinder or calipers.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:07 PM
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A few points:

First, I'm really sorry that some forum members seem to have HORRIBLE BMW Dealer Service Experiences - I feel for you but can't relate personally. Maybe I'm lucky ?? Or maybe I approach my dealer as an "informed consumer"??

Next, it seems that some regular service items for BMW, and quite frankly most every "European" brand I'm familiar with, are totally alien to previous owners of domestic or 'Asian' brands. Not surprising - must be a car-culture thing. {e.g. for domestics I'm sure Chevy dealers would rather sell you re-manufactured brake calipers and master / slave cylinders than suggest you flush the brake fluid every two years or so (it's hygroscopic - google it)} .

Last point - if you're not comfortable as a DIY'er, don't have the time or equipment to do it properly, etc etc a QUALIFIED independent BMW Mechanic is always a viable alternative to a dealer - especially if TRUST is an issue. HOWEVER, it's been MY experience that there are great - to good - to bad operators there too.

I really believe the key is being an INFORMED consumer and be able to act as if you know the difference between gold and donkey dung!
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:23 PM
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Regardless of make or model, brake fluid should be changed every 2 years regardless of mileage driven for the reasons stated above. Even my Mazda has this as a scheduled item in the owners manual.

A fair price at a BMW dealership should be around 200$ all inclusive; they will have service specials time to time for the 160-180$ range. An independent shop can do this as well if the local dealer charges too much.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:45 PM
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Very similar story,went to dealer for another check engine light and got the response oh brake fluid change is due as well as filter replacement. ok the car is still under warranty 2013 x5d at 30.000 miles.3 days later with lots of sensor replacements and a brake fluid exchange later I noticed that the change fluid light came on after I left the dealer and the you have 999 miles to drive left, def related message. Went to a different dealer,who could see via the key that they did a lot of things and advised me a def fluid refill of 6 gallons in the parking lot.....that fixed the def warning and I reset the date on the brake fluid myself as per instruction found for a 335 d via google. Car is happy again and so am I.but 3 check engine lights,a rattling tailgate and some more hick ups in the def department seem steep for such a young car.May be the robots that assembled the car suffered from Mondays.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:28 PM
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- Dealer did not reset the brake fluid service indicator. Dealer did same thing on mine recently, very sloppy IMO but not the robots' fault.
- DEF is a consumable product, like fuel. Car is warning you it's low, just like it would for fuel and again not the robot's fault. Wonder why the warning came up since DEF is part of oil service. Either you are have an oil change coming up and the DEF would have been filled as part of that service or you had a recent oil service and the dealer did not refill the DEF.
- No way they put in 6 gallons of DEF. That's more than both tanks combined will hold and you still had some fluid if you went in anywhere close to the 999 mile warning.

Sounds like you had other issues that would be attributable to the robots, but the humans at both dealers are doing a poor good job and providing incorrect info.
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:40 PM
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Back in 1969 when I bought my first BMW, as a new college graduate, and started doing my own maintenance, I noted the brake fluid flush requirement and asked about it at the dealer. It was pointed out that BMW assumed you were going to do sme spirited driving and wanted to be sure you didn't lose your brakes when wet fluid boiled on you. Other vehicles I've owned were less inclined to insist but did have recommendations for flushes anyway.
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