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Old 11-30-2009, 01:19 AM
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Z3 Hardtop Headliner repair?

I bought two Hardtops for my wife and daughters Z3's they both have drooping spots the material is fine but the glue is no longer holding. I have one out so the top can be painted, has anyone reglued or had one repaired at shop? If yes what did it cost?
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:19 AM
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I recently took my headliner out to have the HT repainted. The headliner itself was not glued down. There was a 2x2.5' piece of foam material in the main space above your head. Is that loose in yours? Maybe the design changed at some point ( I think my HT had a 2000 production date) but my headliner is semi-rigid and was just held in place by the various plastic fasteners and a close friction fit around the rear window. I would think that if you needed to have it glued it would not be too difficult to do it yourself though you'd have to work kinda fast to get the headliner properly positioned before the glue took a set.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:05 PM
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The black fabric is comming unglued from the black plastic shell.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:24 PM
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I would think that some spray adhesive should do the trick.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:27 PM
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I would think that some spray adhesive should do the trick.
I think the difficulty there would be how to apply adhesive without peeling off the entire headliner covering material which would probably tear in the process. I guess the OP could try to do that and if unsuccessful could just recover the entire piece with a new material (like TerryF did on the other board)
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:31 AM
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Go to the free clinic and get some heroin syringes. That worked for my door panels on my 3 series eons ago.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:41 AM
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Haha, good idea! Assuming you're serious, what kind of glue can you get through a 29-31G needle?
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:38 AM
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I just used gorilla glue. It wasn't quick, but it did the trick. Got one of the bubbles under the vinyl on the door panel.

However, everyone who saw the syringes on my workbench gave me a funny look.
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:55 PM
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I think the difficulty there would be how to apply adhesive without peeling off the entire headliner covering material which would probably tear in the process. I guess the OP could try to do that and if unsuccessful could just recover the entire piece with a new material (like TerryF did on the other board)
Yes, he would have to find a spot at an edge to get behind the liner, but given the description, I would say that the rest of the adhesive probably isn't in the best shape to begin with.
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:37 PM
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Im going to take it to an upholstery shop and get a quote. Both of the tops i bought have this problem and some I passed on looked worse. One top is black so i dont have to paint it will use it on the daughters daily driver and leave the headliner alone for now. The one I have to paint is red now and going on the wifes baby. One owner 39,000 mile 1999 Artic Silver looks like it just came off the showroom floor. The top will have to be in like new condition for her. Thought I would ask here first since this seems to be a problem on these Hardtops?

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Old 12-02-2009, 09:38 AM
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I am seriously considering getting a hardtop off a 2002 Z3...Is there a problem with the lining on ALL hardtops....anything else I should be aware of....like maybe outside air coming into the cabin?? Please advise b/4 I plunk down my $$. Thanks Much.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:18 PM
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I have had two HT's and neither had any headliner problems. As BMW recommends storing the top in a specially designed weatherproof bag when not in use, my guess is that the headliner adhesive is sensitive to moisture and temperature fluctuation issues
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:38 PM
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Both of my hardtops are from 1999 per the factory stickers. The red one is the factory paint job the black one was blue then painted black so the liner was more than likely removed when painted. 10 years is a long time for spray adhesive to hold cloth to plastic with summer and winter temps. I have no idea how they were stored before I got them but they only have small pockets were they are pulling loose and they are all at areas were the top has bends not in the flat areas. This might not even bother some people im kinda type a when it comes to my vehicles I even do my own pdr not a single dent or ding on these cars.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:28 AM
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Maybe a stupid question...........

Was thinking about the headliner issue. Have some sagging in my hardtop. Does that spray on bedliner material come in a smooth texture? Was thinking that might be permanent fix if it looked okay. Might be a bit heavy too, but then that might further soundproof the car.........thoughts/feedback?

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Old 12-03-2009, 11:03 AM
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Went to a local upholstery shop they want $300.00 to put a new liner in. Looks like I will be replacing it myself.

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Old 11-28-2011, 12:00 AM
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Not sure how to do that but i am looking to buy a hardtop for a 2000 z3 roadster (black). Where did you get yours? Thanks and good luck with the repair!
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:41 AM
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..just a thought..the fabric is normally glued to the hard liner..3M makes dedicated glues for this(probably oe) and you can use it with a sprayer nozzle(like wd-40,etc)..so it seems you could poke the nozzle through a small hole(make one) and respray the contact area...too easy?..ok, if you want it to stay next to forever, you might press some black plastic button rivets through(maybe through the new small re-glue holes, if patterned nicely) the hard liner...or you could actually stitch the damn fabric to the hard liner for a really permanent fix(use black nylon carpet thread)........dk
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