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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 11-23-2011, 08:41 PM
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Arrow F series M3 engine revealed...

OK boys & girls...
...I have this guy at BMW, known him for a long time... a real company "man", an insider's "insider" and he told me that BMW has settled on a TRI-TURBO INLINE 6 for the "F" series M3, and said it is a fire-breathing torque monster with the HP boosted real nice.

Beware AMG, CTS-V & GT500/Ford/Shelby.

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Old 11-23-2011, 10:06 PM
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:47 PM
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Lord have mercy...better be gas
I can only take so much sacrilege & blasphemy from the M division
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:34 PM
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If true and it could be, I'm not surprised. What I heard being tested around the Nurburgring was definitely not an 8 cylinder. Though wouldn't a tri-turbo setup help a V configuration engine more? IDK.
BTW, if true I've bought my last M car. That setup will not be reliable.
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:04 PM
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Lord have mercy...better be gas
I can only take so much sacrilege & blasphemy from the M division
The news of the 381hp/516ftlb tri-turbo diesel broke earlier rthis week in the Netherlands. This engine will be in the M550dx.
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Old 11-24-2011, 09:53 PM
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The rumor is that the third turbo is a small electrically powered turbo that will provide boost from pretty much 0 rpm. This is of course to remove any turbo lag. While I'm curious I'm also one of the stuck in the past enthusiasts who prefer high revving NA engines to grunty turbo torque monsters. I'm also in favor of mechanical solutions before electrical where possible. However if the result is an exciting, fun and communicative car I'll be ok with it.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:00 AM
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I'm not so concerned about the engine as the fact that these cars aren't losing any weight. The 911-- previously already around 500 pounds lighter than the M3-- is now a little bigger (a whole extra 1/4" of rear seat legroom, lol) and yet managed to lose an additional 100 pounds. Now, if only it could lose $30,000...
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:31 AM
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I'm not so concerned about the engine as the fact that these cars aren't losing any weight. The 911-- previously already around 500 pounds lighter than the M3-- is now a little bigger (a whole extra 1/4" of rear seat legroom, lol) and yet managed to lose an additional 100 pounds. Now, if only it could lose $30,000...
I'll wait and see. From what I read, the new F30 is slightly lighter than the outgoing model. BMW has already stated it's committed to more use of CF. Too soon to tell, but I'm optimistic.

And....I think there is a new Cayman coming too. That will be on the top of my list also
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:36 AM
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I'll wait and see. From what I read, the new F30 is slightly lighter than the outgoing model. BMW has already stated it's committed to more use of CF. Too soon to tell, but I'm optimistic.

And....I think there is a new Cayman coming too. That will be on the top of my list also
"Slightly" just won't cut it these days. And yeah, if I didn't want "occasional use" back seats, I'd get the new Boxster S in a second.
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:30 PM
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"Slightly" just won't cut it these days. And yeah, if I didn't want "occasional use" back seats, I'd get the new Boxster S in a second.
BMW should bring the M3 back to no more than 3,300 Lbs. and increase HP & Trq. to over 450
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:17 AM
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You tried too hard to convince us of your "insider" (see how I did that bold-italic-quotation? you know I'm for real now) information.

I call full-on bull-shiat.
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You tried too hard to convince us of your "insider" (see how I did that bold-italic-quotation? you know I'm for real now) information.

I call full-on bull-shiat.
I've seen this info somewhere else 2-3 months ago. Doesn't make it true, but in any event SOMEONE else (uh, or MAYBE this same person - not sure ... ) is putting these same details out there.

Quick Google returns many results, including:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570925
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:28 AM
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I've seen this info somewhere else 2-3 months ago. Doesn't make it true, but in any event SOMEONE else (uh, or MAYBE this same person - not sure ... ) is putting these same details out there.

Quick Google returns many results, including:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570925
Most of that speculation is the result of a patent filing in which BMW showed (and was awarded patenting for) a modified sequential turbo setup in which the flow-through and by-pass mechanisms were greatly improved. They showed that the design case was also expandable to beyond the two-turbo usage case - it was this aspect of the patent that was driving speculation on the M. Most news points to the M550xd (I believe that's the latest monicker) being a tri-turbo diesel application.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:00 PM
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You tried too hard to convince us of your "insider" (see how I did that bold-italic-quotation? you know I'm for real now) information.

I call full-on bull-shiat.
Wow...you read into FAr too much someones "typing style"...
believe what you want, I KNOW who this guy is and what info in past years he has come up with LONG before any of you armchair rocket scientists figure out
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:44 PM
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Lord have mercy...better be gas
I can only take so much sacrilege & blasphemy from the M division
You've obviously never driven a diesel.
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You've obviously never driven a diesel.
I have, What's your point?
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Good thread to discuss the new car but why argue. Oh yes the 335d is a fun drive.
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