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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:27 PM
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Run Flats for Winter Tires?

I've settled on Blizzak WS70 winter tires, but can't decide between the run flats or non run flats. The advantage of not getting standed wity a flat in the snow is clear; I don't want to sacrifice handling, etc in crappy Wisconsin winters. Thanks to all.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:17 PM
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I got Blizzak non run-flats for my 135i. they work VERY well in the snow. I use one of the front performance tires for a spare, and put it in the trunk. It's only for four months, then back to the run flat performance tires.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:43 PM
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According to both Tire Rack and Bridgestone, the WS70 is not available in a RFT version. And like most "studless ice and snow" tires, it will have indifferent handling on dry and wet roads - but will be very good in snow.

If you really don't want to "sacrifice handling", why not pick a Performance Winter tire such as the Blizzak LM25 (RFT), Dunlop 3D, Michelin PA3 or Pirelli 210/240 (RFT or non)?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...ting=S&tab=All

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Old 12-17-2011, 12:33 PM
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According to both Tire Rack and Bridgestone, the WS70 is not available in a RFT version. And like most "studless ice and snow" tires, it will have indifferent handling on dry and wet roads - but will be very good in snow.

If you really don't want to "sacrifice handling", why not pick a Performance Winter tire such as the Blizzak LM25 (RFT), Dunlop 3D, Michelin PA3 or Pirelli 210/240 (RFT or non)?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...ting=S&tab=All

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Old 12-30-2011, 12:29 AM
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We're running WS-70's on both my 135 M-sport and the wifes 335xi.
Ours are non-runflats. The wifes car has a 12vdc air-compressor and plug kit in the trunk. The BMW tire pressure monitor is very sensitive, 2 psi low will turn on the light.
Went with 17" rims on both, initial cornering response is no where near as crisp as the oem 18" tires on either pavement or snowpacked roads. In my 135 I can break the rears loose at will in 1st thru 3rd on dry pavement, 1st thru 4th on snow, I'm of the skinny is better train of thought when it comes to snows, so we went with 205s.
Now the pluses, I've driven on rain soaked black-ice, Soldotna to Homer, ~75 miles, no problem. (SUVs were pulling over to let me by) Avoided moose on icy roads. Got out of our drive way before the plow got there, 8" of wet sticky snow.

Once you learn the tires, I think you'll like them.

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Old 12-30-2011, 02:02 AM
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If you really don't want to "sacrifice handling", why not pick a Performance Winter tire such as the Blizzak LM25 (RFT), Dunlop 3D, Michelin PA3 or Pirelli 210/240 (RFT or non)?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...ting=S&tab=All

Tom


Michelin PA3 on my sons 2009 135i convertable & 2003 Mustang

Dunlop 3D On my Rav4

I have a tire plug kit.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...cStoreNum=4018

I also have a ContiComfortKit $79 from Tire Rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/...Tire+Inflation

If I ever have a flat I will use the plugs first if that doesn't work I will use the slime and replace the TPM sensor.

If the plugs work, I will also get a regular patch on the inside of the tire for an extra safe patch.

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Well, I just put a set of new WS-70's on my 135i and in general I'm pretty happy with it. They're not run-flats, but I figure that's the reason I have both towing coverage on my insurance and BMW Assist. Besides, it's unlikely I'm going to venture much beyond St. Louis during the winter months so I'm never far from a place I can get replacements. However, if I decide I REALLY need a spare I think I would go with richstacy's idea of sticking one of my performance tires in the trunk. But really, I am getting to the point in my life that especially if it's cold and slushy outside I'd rather just call someone to deal with it.

I will say I also went with 205's on 17" rims, which has had an awful effect on handling. I lose traction quite often but I've found judicious use of the go-pedal takes care of a lot of it. Also, with St. Louis swinging from below freezing and snow to 60 degrees and sunny in the space of a week it's really becoming tiring. These snow and ice tires get REALLY soft when the temperature tops 45 degrees or so, and as a result the handling gets squirrelly. Especially when it's windy like today coupled with the vagueness in the steering from these tall sidewall soft rubber tires makes it hard to track a line on the highway.

On the bright side, these tires have slowed me down a bit on my commute to work
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